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  3. A multibillion-pound drive to “mainline AI into the veins” of the British economy is riddled with “phantom investments” and shaky accounting, a Guardian investigation has found.

A multibillion-pound drive to “mainline AI into the veins” of the British economy is riddled with “phantom investments” and shaky accounting, a Guardian investigation has found.

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  • davep@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere

    Ooh!

    I mean, interesting.

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    • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

      @davep

      Ha! I've been hoarding an old set of encyclopaedias as a baseline for when old knowledge gets 'reinterpreted'.

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      @ReggieHere @davep Good idea! And thank goodness for archive.org; you can easily ignore all the trash published after 2022.

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        @Thebratdragon

        Always useful to have a source....
        https://archive.org/
        http://archivebyd3rzt3ehjpm4c3bjkyxv3hjleiytnvxcn7x32psn2kxcuid.onion

        @davep

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          @Thebratdragon

          The internet may well be the first thing to go in the event of a world war.....assuming that we've not all been locked out for having unregistered devices in the meantime of course.

          @davep

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            @Thebratdragon

            It's all important information, and the older texts often come with context that's completely missing from modern interpretations.

            I noticed that the Hay festival is coming up soon for anyone who wants to stock up on apocalyptic hard copy 🙂

            @davep

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              @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
              Very cool. I've got some book amidst my vast pile of stuff containing 100 interesting engineering principles/designs from about 100 years ago. It's ace.

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                @Thebratdragon

                Absolutely, and also published at a time when breaking even was sufficient return so more eclectic titles could get published.

                @davep

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                • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Thebratdragon

                  ....and could get them from public libraries without having to buy a subscription with some rent-seeking web publisher.

                  @davep

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                    @Thebratdragon

                    Ha, brilliant!

                    It's always been about information. Data has been a huge distraction.

                    @davep

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                    • ginevracat@toot.communityG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep Yes. They do.

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                      • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Thebratdragon

                        All permanently available and copyable. It's a shame that so many companies and colleges dumped their hard copy for online subscriptions.

                        @davep

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                          @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep People should really pay more attention to the "post-apocalyptic marketability" of their skills and knowledge. You don't want to be the useless drain on resources that gets eaten first!

                          (Me, I have a printing press with movable type and a little paper-making kit and the know-how to use it, along with bookbinding. My partner has a loom and knows how to spin and weave.)

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                            @Thebratdragon

                            Yep, and thanks to the economics of the day, digitising everything looked like a no-brainer.

                            Fifty years on, with the world's knowledge increasingly locked up behind corporate paywalls it could be considered to have been a trifle hasty.

                            @davep

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                              @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                              We've got vets and farmers here, it's the stuff like ram pumps that will be magic.

                              "Appropriate technology" as the last Keith Addison put it.

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                              • heinragas@mublog.nlH heinragas@mublog.nl

                                @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep People should really pay more attention to the "post-apocalyptic marketability" of their skills and knowledge. You don't want to be the useless drain on resources that gets eaten first!

                                (Me, I have a printing press with movable type and a little paper-making kit and the know-how to use it, along with bookbinding. My partner has a loom and knows how to spin and weave.)

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                                @heinragas @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                                Excellent stuff.

                                I've got a reedbed wastewater system, solar panels with battery storage that will outlive me, an electric car, blackberries, walnuts and chestnuts, a freezer full of seeds, and stuff one doesn't talk about in polite company.

                                Looking at things like tents and sleeping bags etc too. We're in the boonies and I imagine "society" will go back to a more labour intensive/small scale food production model in the future.

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                                  @Thebratdragon

                                  Weird that digital technology has still to come up with anything that matches paper and microfiche for long term preservation.

                                  @davep

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                                    @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                                    I've been in IT for over 40 years (currently changing tack to batteries and heat pumps). I don't think it's built on obsolescence so much as information loss being an artifact of digitisation, especially when society crumbles.

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                                      @Thebratdragon

                                      With the benefit of hindsight, I wonder whether the digital revolution was premised on replacing hard copy information, along with the archivists, registrars and librarians that managed it to create a new world in which human knowledge could be monopolised by tech corporates.


                                      @davep

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                                        @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                                        @Lydie has a huge torrent archive by the way.

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                                        • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                                          @Thebratdragon

                                          With the benefit of hindsight, I wonder whether the digital revolution was premised on replacing hard copy information, along with the archivists, registrars and librarians that managed it to create a new world in which human knowledge could be monopolised by tech corporates.


                                          @davep

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                                          @ReggieHere @Thebratdragon

                                          I think that came later. The tech needed to exist first.

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