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  3. A multibillion-pound drive to “mainline AI into the veins” of the British economy is riddled with “phantom investments” and shaky accounting, a Guardian investigation has found.

A multibillion-pound drive to “mainline AI into the veins” of the British economy is riddled with “phantom investments” and shaky accounting, a Guardian investigation has found.

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  • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

    A multibillion-pound drive to “mainline AI into the veins” of the British economy is riddled with “phantom investments” and shaky accounting, a Guardian investigation has found.

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    @kibcol1049

    AI in its current state is a very efficient information collection mechanism, and information is power.

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    • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

      @kibcol1049

      AI in its current state is a very efficient information collection mechanism, and information is power.

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      @ReggieHere @kibcol1049
      It's amazing, like an encyclopedia, but with more nutters and statistical bollocks involved.

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      • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

        @ReggieHere @kibcol1049
        It's amazing, like an encyclopedia, but with more nutters and statistical bollocks involved.

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        @davep

        Agreed, but controlling information is the 21st century equivalent of owning the means of production in the 19th century.

        @kibcol1049

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        • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

          @davep

          Agreed, but controlling information is the 21st century equivalent of owning the means of production in the 19th century.

          @kibcol1049

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          @ReggieHere @kibcol1049
          I bought myself a set of 1980s Encyclopaedia Brittanica a few months back for €100. Absolute bargain for post-apocalyptic reading materials.

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          • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

            @ReggieHere @kibcol1049
            I bought myself a set of 1980s Encyclopaedia Brittanica a few months back for €100. Absolute bargain for post-apocalyptic reading materials.

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            @davep

            Ha! I've been hoarding an old set of encyclopaedias as a baseline for when old knowledge gets 'reinterpreted'.

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              @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere

              Ooh!

              I mean, interesting.

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              • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                @davep

                Ha! I've been hoarding an old set of encyclopaedias as a baseline for when old knowledge gets 'reinterpreted'.

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                @ReggieHere @davep Good idea! And thank goodness for archive.org; you can easily ignore all the trash published after 2022.

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                  @Thebratdragon

                  Always useful to have a source....
                  https://archive.org/
                  http://archivebyd3rzt3ehjpm4c3bjkyxv3hjleiytnvxcn7x32psn2kxcuid.onion

                  @davep

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                    @Thebratdragon

                    The internet may well be the first thing to go in the event of a world war.....assuming that we've not all been locked out for having unregistered devices in the meantime of course.

                    @davep

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                      @Thebratdragon

                      It's all important information, and the older texts often come with context that's completely missing from modern interpretations.

                      I noticed that the Hay festival is coming up soon for anyone who wants to stock up on apocalyptic hard copy 🙂

                      @davep

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                        @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                        Very cool. I've got some book amidst my vast pile of stuff containing 100 interesting engineering principles/designs from about 100 years ago. It's ace.

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                          @Thebratdragon

                          Absolutely, and also published at a time when breaking even was sufficient return so more eclectic titles could get published.

                          @davep

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                            @Thebratdragon

                            ....and could get them from public libraries without having to buy a subscription with some rent-seeking web publisher.

                            @davep

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                              @Thebratdragon

                              Ha, brilliant!

                              It's always been about information. Data has been a huge distraction.

                              @davep

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                                @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep Yes. They do.

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                                  @Thebratdragon

                                  All permanently available and copyable. It's a shame that so many companies and colleges dumped their hard copy for online subscriptions.

                                  @davep

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                                    @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep People should really pay more attention to the "post-apocalyptic marketability" of their skills and knowledge. You don't want to be the useless drain on resources that gets eaten first!

                                    (Me, I have a printing press with movable type and a little paper-making kit and the know-how to use it, along with bookbinding. My partner has a loom and knows how to spin and weave.)

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                                      @Thebratdragon

                                      Yep, and thanks to the economics of the day, digitising everything looked like a no-brainer.

                                      Fifty years on, with the world's knowledge increasingly locked up behind corporate paywalls it could be considered to have been a trifle hasty.

                                      @davep

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                                        @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                                        We've got vets and farmers here, it's the stuff like ram pumps that will be magic.

                                        "Appropriate technology" as the last Keith Addison put it.

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                                        • heinragas@mublog.nlH heinragas@mublog.nl

                                          @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere @davep People should really pay more attention to the "post-apocalyptic marketability" of their skills and knowledge. You don't want to be the useless drain on resources that gets eaten first!

                                          (Me, I have a printing press with movable type and a little paper-making kit and the know-how to use it, along with bookbinding. My partner has a loom and knows how to spin and weave.)

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                                          @heinragas @Thebratdragon @ReggieHere
                                          Excellent stuff.

                                          I've got a reedbed wastewater system, solar panels with battery storage that will outlive me, an electric car, blackberries, walnuts and chestnuts, a freezer full of seeds, and stuff one doesn't talk about in polite company.

                                          Looking at things like tents and sleeping bags etc too. We're in the boonies and I imagine "society" will go back to a more labour intensive/small scale food production model in the future.

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