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  • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online
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    #1

    Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

    Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
    Was it a real issue? Also yes.

    The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

    Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

    andypiper@macaw.socialA sverx@mastodon.gamedev.placeS kimota94@mas.toK P sonic2k@oldbytes.spaceS 19 Replies Last reply
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    • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

      Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

      Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
      Was it a real issue? Also yes.

      The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

      Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

      andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jonn_blanchard indeed - I was on call on 31/12/1999 just in case the Post Office datacentre in the Midlands had an issue, but we’d spent 2 years rebuilding the software infrastructure so that it wouldn’t!

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      • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

        Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

        Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
        Was it a real issue? Also yes.

        The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

        Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

        sverx@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        sverx@mastodon.gamedev.place
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        #3

        @jonn_blanchard yep - I've been there too. Lots of bugged software around, and part of that was not even fixed properly, as the 'main' target was the Jan 1st 2000 but the 'secondary' issue of Y2K was the Feb 29th 2000 - and I saw code breaking in either or both cases (yes, at work I had a few softwares report Mar 1st 2000 the day before that... 😅 )

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        • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

          Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

          Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
          Was it a real issue? Also yes.

          The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

          Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

          kimota94@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jonn_blanchard Can confirm. I spent 2+ years of my 25-year career expanding date fields to include the century, among other changes, so that the bank I worked for wouldn’t fall into chaos when we crossed over New Year’s into 2000. Saying it was a fake crisis, when you know nothing about it, is just stupid. Please don’t be stupid, people.

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          • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

            Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

            Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
            Was it a real issue? Also yes.

            The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

            Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

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            peteri@hachyderm.io
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            @jonn_blanchard Martyn Thomas did a talk for Gresham college called "What really happened in Y2K"

            He has good list of things that broke.

            https://www.gresham.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2017-04-04-MartynThomas_Y2K-T.pdf

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            • sverx@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sverx@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @jonn_blanchard yep - I've been there too. Lots of bugged software around, and part of that was not even fixed properly, as the 'main' target was the Jan 1st 2000 but the 'secondary' issue of Y2K was the Feb 29th 2000 - and I saw code breaking in either or both cases (yes, at work I had a few softwares report Mar 1st 2000 the day before that... 😅 )

              nentuaby@wandering.shopN This user is from outside of this forum
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              @sverx I fixed two live Y2K bugs, and I started in the industry in 2007! (Banking software; they cropped up when a certain class of loans currently *maturing* started to be *originated* after 2000-1-1)

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              • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                sonic2k@oldbytes.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @jonn_blanchard
                Of course it was real... lived through it. Had to work overtime to make sure things went smoothly. I was in telecoms at the time.

                These videos are the same as the flat-earth ones. Not worth anyone's time or bandwidth.

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                • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                  Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                  Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                  Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                  The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                  Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                  float13@masto.hackers.townF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jonn_blanchard

                  I was at a movie theater and the (physical actual) film broke or burned halfway through the movie, and everyone freaked out for a second... So even the fully analogue systems were on edge that night 🤣

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                  • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                    Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                    Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                    Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                    The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                    Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                    nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
                    nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                    #9

                    @jonn_blanchard I literally had this conversation not an hour ago. It wasn't an issue because we fixed it before doomsday.

                    I remember back in 1999, I knew a guy who ran a public access show about Y2K prepping. He was so full of shit, but he was good looking and charismatic, so people listened to him.

                    I knew so many people who prepped HARD, bought trucks and trailers(for mobility), guns guns guns, stockpiled food and water. It was nuts and pathetic.

                    And then some of us woke up that morning and enjoyed our coffee.

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                    • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                      Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                      Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                      Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                      The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                      Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                      divverent@misskey.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online I had the probably funniest Y2K bug. A video store software called "Videka" jumped from 1999 straight to 2001. Quick testing showed it did consider it a leap year, which gave hope.

                      Some messing around and I saw a string like

                      19941995199619971998199920012002200320042005

                      in the binary... so yeah, I binary patched it to the correct sequence and it worked perfectly.

                      I suspect it was made in QuickBasic and for some odd reason had logic like

                      Year$ = MID("19941995...2005", Year% * 4 + 1, 4)

                      for whatever dumb reason...

                      Soon after video stores became irrelevant.
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                      • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @jonn_blanchard I literally had this conversation not an hour ago. It wasn't an issue because we fixed it before doomsday.

                        I remember back in 1999, I knew a guy who ran a public access show about Y2K prepping. He was so full of shit, but he was good looking and charismatic, so people listened to him.

                        I knew so many people who prepped HARD, bought trucks and trailers(for mobility), guns guns guns, stockpiled food and water. It was nuts and pathetic.

                        And then some of us woke up that morning and enjoyed our coffee.

                        mikefromlfe@cupoftea.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @nuintari @jonn_blanchard
                        Yes! I was working over midnight at a major hospital and then.... nothing bad happened. (The joy of being a senior in the system)

                        Nothing happening was due to all the planning and work that lots of professionals put in in advance of Y2K

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                        • mikefromlfe@cupoftea.socialM mikefromlfe@cupoftea.social

                          @nuintari @jonn_blanchard
                          Yes! I was working over midnight at a major hospital and then.... nothing bad happened. (The joy of being a senior in the system)

                          Nothing happening was due to all the planning and work that lots of professionals put in in advance of Y2K

                          nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @MikeFromLFE @jonn_blanchard

                          I was with my girl, literally the first thing I did in 2000 was have an orgasm The last thing I did in 1999 was the same.

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                          • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                            Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                            Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                            Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                            The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                            Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                            drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jonn_blanchard <weeps in frustration...>

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                            • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                              Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                              Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                              Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                              The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                              Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                              decadecity@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @jonn_blanchard As a rookie field engineer going around patching stuff I wasn't working on anything as big as banks, hospitals or mass transport but I did see a lot of small businesses that would have been crippled by the loss of their IT capabilities.

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                              • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                                Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                                Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                                Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                                The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                                Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                                bencotterill@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @jonn_blanchard @Binder My dad spent that night looking at screens. One thing that went wrong was the urinalysis checker in a toilet at a nuclear power station.

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                                • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                                  Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                                  Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                                  Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                                  The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                                  Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                                  cynblogger@sfba.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jonn_blanchard
                                  I had the world’s best programmer who started planning 24 years ahead. ❤️

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                                  • P peteri@hachyderm.io

                                    @jonn_blanchard Martyn Thomas did a talk for Gresham college called "What really happened in Y2K"

                                    He has good list of things that broke.

                                    https://www.gresham.ac.uk/sites/default/files/2017-04-04-MartynThomas_Y2K-T.pdf

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                                    @peteri @jonn_blanchard

                                    And that doesn't address the y2k failures that happened basically every 5 years after 2000 as software where the problem was "solved" by redefining the rollover date using a window rolled over.

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                                    • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                                      Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                                      Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                                      Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                                      The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                                      Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

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                                      cj@dragonscave.space
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                                      @jonn_blanchard @Fragglemuppet If you put the work in up front then it always looks too easy. We just rolled out a huge project across multiple states with no issues at all. I don't think people realize how amazing this was because we just made it look too easy. It was three years of hard work with a one year sprint at the end.

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                                      • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                                        Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                                        Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                                        Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                                        The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                                        Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                                        alsvha@sunny.gardenA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jonn_blanchard I actually think if the media hadn't blown the situation up as they did, I'm not sure so many would have actually cared about fixing it either.

                                        It definitely was real, but conspiracy theories exists in all walks of life, so I guess it's just par for the course that (some) people doubt Y2K.

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                                        • jonn_blanchard@retrochat.onlineJ jonn_blanchard@retrochat.online

                                          Having watched another video saying Y2K wasn’t real - my standard clarification

                                          Did the media blow the situation up? Yes
                                          Was it a real issue? Also yes.

                                          The reason not much happened was because hordes of developers worked tirelessly to fix systems, I know, I was one of them.

                                          Trust me - stuff was going to break, I saw code for Banks, Hospitals and Mass transport and it was all going to fail

                                          svelmoe@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @jonn_blanchard I work on a live project which still contain handling of 2 digit year.

                                          Stuff would have blown up if not done correctly.

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