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the complete absence of critique against #nlnet going full mask off militarism during #fosdem is deafening

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  • d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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    the complete absence of critique against #nlnet going full mask off militarism during #fosdem is deafening

    around the 47 minute mark... the grand mage of nlnet, the money tap for the euro free software movement...

    and not a peep...

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    • d1@autonomous.zoneD d1@autonomous.zone

      the complete absence of critique against #nlnet going full mask off militarism during #fosdem is deafening

      around the 47 minute mark... the grand mage of nlnet, the money tap for the euro free software movement...

      and not a peep...

      d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
      d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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      this naive vision of free software hackers only involved in making things that "dont explode" for "defense"... has michiel heard of a TANK or a DRONE and how it works?

      enjoy your stickers tho

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        this naive vision of free software hackers only involved in making things that "dont explode" for "defense"... has michiel heard of a TANK or a DRONE and how it works?

        enjoy your stickers tho

        d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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        if youre taking money from #nlnet you have a duty to look at what is being said in this video and take a public position on it

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        • d1@autonomous.zoneD d1@autonomous.zone

          the complete absence of critique against #nlnet going full mask off militarism during #fosdem is deafening

          around the 47 minute mark... the grand mage of nlnet, the money tap for the euro free software movement...

          and not a peep...

          d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
          d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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          if you boost this you lose your funding

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          • d1@autonomous.zoneD d1@autonomous.zone

            the complete absence of critique against #nlnet going full mask off militarism during #fosdem is deafening

            around the 47 minute mark... the grand mage of nlnet, the money tap for the euro free software movement...

            and not a peep...

            dantescanline@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
            dantescanline@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @d1 the talk was very jumbled and confused, and glued together with really weak ass western liberal world view and framing. end of history, stable peace since ww2 etc crap. buuuut was it outright full mask off militarism?

            i understood it as lets get the military to pay to fix software infrastructure because its just like regular physical infrastructure that they'd have an interest in securing. do you take it as meaning building military specific 'defensive only' stuff?

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              @d1 the talk was very jumbled and confused, and glued together with really weak ass western liberal world view and framing. end of history, stable peace since ww2 etc crap. buuuut was it outright full mask off militarism?

              i understood it as lets get the military to pay to fix software infrastructure because its just like regular physical infrastructure that they'd have an interest in securing. do you take it as meaning building military specific 'defensive only' stuff?

              d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
              d1@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @dantescanline "defense" is a euphemism for the military-industrial complex.

              in NL, the princess has become a corporal, the government put 19 billion into "defense" and steal it from healthcare, housing and social welfare. there is fear that mandatory conscription returns.

              in short, the militarisation of society. the final message of this presentation dovetails nicely into this trajectory with a frightening lack of friction

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                @dantescanline "defense" is a euphemism for the military-industrial complex.

                in NL, the princess has become a corporal, the government put 19 billion into "defense" and steal it from healthcare, housing and social welfare. there is fear that mandatory conscription returns.

                in short, the militarisation of society. the final message of this presentation dovetails nicely into this trajectory with a frightening lack of friction

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                @dantescanline this line of thinking doesn't conflict with having us all in trenches

                the military will not be donating to our open collective while we apt upgrade from the couch

                does this not strike you as a military-industrial notice me senpai maneuver?

                in NL, there's a rich history of anti-militarism, with one of the strongest anarchist movements in europe at the time which intervened in this struggle

                social movements that demanded deescalation and political/social solutions for society...

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                  @dantescanline this line of thinking doesn't conflict with having us all in trenches

                  the military will not be donating to our open collective while we apt upgrade from the couch

                  does this not strike you as a military-industrial notice me senpai maneuver?

                  in NL, there's a rich history of anti-militarism, with one of the strongest anarchist movements in europe at the time which intervened in this struggle

                  social movements that demanded deescalation and political/social solutions for society...

                  dantescanline@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dantescanline@autonomous.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @d1 i guess my thinking was this is not a sudden "mask off", its that nearly all people are pro military in that they are statists, and its like a lost cause to expect them to behave otherwise? and the only real revelation that the liberals / soft left are having is that the US did actually provide a lot of military support for europe, keeping their global economic position dominant.

                  maybe also im having a serious loss of faith in general, i look at the anarchist movements here and think wtf

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