@d1 i guess my thinking was this is not a sudden "mask off", its that nearly all people are pro military in that they are statists, and its like a lost cause to expect them to behave otherwise? and the only real revelation that the liberals / soft left are having is that the US did actually provide a lot of military support for europe, keeping their global economic position dominant.maybe also im having a serious loss of faith in general, i look at the anarchist movements here and think wtf
