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  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    j_a_clausen@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    j_a_clausen@mastodon.social
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    #17

    @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

      mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #18

      @capitainesam

      People will find out...

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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        starkrg@myside-yourside.net
        wrote last edited by
        #19

        @capitainesam If it's actually biometric data, it's also tied to the algorithm used to calculate it. Too often, though, companies don't just store the biometric data, but the raw data such as an image of your face. They should not be doing that.

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        • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

          @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

          One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

          Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

          erindesu@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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          • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

            @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

            tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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            • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

              @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

              dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #22

              @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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              • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

                ananas@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #23

                @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

                  @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #24

                  @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                    john_loader@ohai.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    john_loader@ohai.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #25

                    @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      When your password leaks:
                      → Change your password
                      → Problem solved

                      When your biometric data leaks:
                      → You can't change your face
                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                      → The compromise is permanent
                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                      jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #26

                      @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                        When your password leaks:
                        → Change your password
                        → Problem solved

                        When your biometric data leaks:
                        → You can't change your face
                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                        → The compromise is permanent
                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                        casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de
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                        #27

                        @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                          When your password leaks:
                          → Change your password
                          → Problem solved

                          When your biometric data leaks:
                          → You can't change your face
                          → You can't change your fingerprints
                          → The compromise is permanent
                          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                          mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #28

                          @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                            When your password leaks:
                            → Change your password
                            → Problem solved

                            When your biometric data leaks:
                            → You can't change your face
                            → You can't change your fingerprints
                            → The compromise is permanent
                            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                            paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #29

                            @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                            • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                              @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

                              manchicken@defcon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #30

                              @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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                              • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                                One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                                Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                                mercutio@troet.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #31

                                @dancingtreefrog
                                Why copy? Just get the finger. With or without the human hanging on it.

                                @capitainesam

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  muzicofiel@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  muzicofiel@mastodon.nl
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #32

                                  @capitainesam @EUCommission @HennaVirkkunen Stop biometric identification. It Will turn in a disaster for money (young) people. Caught for life.

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                                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                    capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #33

                                    🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                    Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                    More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                    Here's what I'm doing about it:

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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      🧵 So what can you do about it?

                                      Discord isn't the only platform pushing biometric surveillance.

                                      More platforms will follow. "Age verification" is just the beginning.

                                      Here's what I'm doing about it:

                                      capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #34

                                      I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                      ❌ Facial recognition
                                      ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                      ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                      Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        I'm building @Snugg - social media that will NEVER require:
                                        ❌ Facial recognition
                                        ❌ Fingerprint scans
                                        ❌ Biometric data of any kind

                                        Why? Because we chose a business model that doesn't need surveillance.

                                        capitainesam@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #35

                                        Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                        No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                        No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                        No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                        Simple.

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                                        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                          Subscription model = we serve users, not advertisers.

                                          No ads = no need for behavioral tracking
                                          No tracking = no biometric data to "verify" you
                                          No biometric data = nothing permanent to breach

                                          Simple.

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                                          capitainesam@mastodon.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #36

                                          We're launching March 2026.

                                          Features:
                                          ✅ End-to-end encryption (messages + metadata)
                                          ✅ Chronological feed (no algorithm)
                                          ✅ Open source (auditable code)
                                          ✅ Fediverse compatible (ActivityPub)
                                          ✅ €5/month (founding members get lifetime discount)

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