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  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @capitainesam

    > You can't change your face

    Not with that attitude

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    • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #13

        @capitainesam

        Just say No to Biometric Identity Verification 🙂🖖

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        • V vrek@mastodon.social

          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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          #14

          @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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          • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

            @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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            @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam hmm... I read that too but same as you it's been over a decade, might be time for a re-read

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            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

              When your password leaks:
              → Change your password
              → Problem solved

              When your biometric data leaks:
              → You can't change your face
              → You can't change your fingerprints
              → The compromise is permanent
              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

              htpcnz@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @capitainesam until you start abusing billionaires biometric data, nothing will ever happen... Even then only use of theirs will be quickly outlawed.

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              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                j_a_clausen@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #17

                @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  mad@freiburg.social
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                  #18

                  @capitainesam

                  People will find out...

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                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                    When your password leaks:
                    → Change your password
                    → Problem solved

                    When your biometric data leaks:
                    → You can't change your face
                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                    → The compromise is permanent
                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                    starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @capitainesam If it's actually biometric data, it's also tied to the algorithm used to calculate it. Too often, though, companies don't just store the biometric data, but the raw data such as an image of your face. They should not be doing that.

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                    • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                      #20

                      @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                      • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

                        @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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                        @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                        • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

                          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                          #22

                          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                          • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                            @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                            #23

                            @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                            • ananas@mstdn.socialA ananas@mstdn.social

                              @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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                              #24

                              @ananas @erindesu @capitainesam Ah, thanks! I knew Apple has that capability.

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                              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

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                                @capitainesam I know a man who could change your face - works for ICE

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  jacobgorm@sigmoid.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #26

                                  @capitainesam unless your profile photo is fake your face data leaked already. I am not sure I understand the concern about face biometrics in a world where we all expose this readily on social media.

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                                  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                    When your password leaks:
                                    → Change your password
                                    → Problem solved

                                    When your biometric data leaks:
                                    → You can't change your face
                                    → You can't change your fingerprints
                                    → The compromise is permanent
                                    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                    casandro@f-ckendehoelle.deC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @capitainesam Well yes, but you constantly leak your biometric data anyhow. That's why one should _never_ use it for authentication.

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                                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                      When your password leaks:
                                      → Change your password
                                      → Problem solved

                                      When your biometric data leaks:
                                      → You can't change your face
                                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                                      → The compromise is permanent
                                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                      mhs_jenkins@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @capitainesam boosted, because of the importance of the message.

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                                      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                        When your password leaks:
                                        → Change your password
                                        → Problem solved

                                        When your biometric data leaks:
                                        → You can't change your face
                                        → You can't change your fingerprints
                                        → The compromise is permanent
                                        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                        paco@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @capitainesam It’s not all bad: when my security questions got compromised, I got a puppy! (I didn’t want to change my dog’s name)

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                                        • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                          @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                                          @tragivictoria @capitainesam good call!

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