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  • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

    When your password leaks:
    → Change your password
    → Problem solved

    When your biometric data leaks:
    → You can't change your face
    → You can't change your fingerprints
    → The compromise is permanent
    → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

    This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

    #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

    dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @capitainesam Don't use biometrics to unlock phones. Police and criminals can grab your hand or aim the phone at your face to unlock your phone regardless of your wishes. They have to ask you for password/PIN; they don't have to ask to simply stick your finger on the phone screen or point the phone at your face.

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    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

      When your password leaks:
      → Change your password
      → Problem solved

      When your biometric data leaks:
      → You can't change your face
      → You can't change your fingerprints
      → The compromise is permanent
      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

      One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

      Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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      • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

        When your password leaks:
        → Change your password
        → Problem solved

        When your biometric data leaks:
        → You can't change your face
        → You can't change your fingerprints
        → The compromise is permanent
        → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

        This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

        #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

        endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @capitainesam
        There's some trans ladies on here that have done a pretty good job at some of this...

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        • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

          When your password leaks:
          → Change your password
          → Problem solved

          When your biometric data leaks:
          → You can't change your face
          → You can't change your fingerprints
          → The compromise is permanent
          → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

          This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

          #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

          manchicken@defcon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          manchicken@defcon.social
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          #7

          @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

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          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

            When your password leaks:
            → Change your password
            → Problem solved

            When your biometric data leaks:
            → You can't change your face
            → You can't change your fingerprints
            → The compromise is permanent
            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

            pouakai@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            pouakai@mastodon.social
            wrote last edited by
            #8

            @capitainesam
            And UK, some states in US, even several countries in EU are not aware of this.

            The politics are either don't care about their people, or too ignorant to realise the risk.

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            • jfml@mastodon.artJ jfml@mastodon.art

              @capitainesam Also maybe not use your fingerprint to unlock your phone if your not 100% sure it stays on the device (even if the device is stolen etc.)

              ill_logic@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @jfml @capitainesam I would hope that your phone takes a "fingerprint" of your fingerprint, i.e. enough to verify but not reconstruct.

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              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                When your password leaks:
                → Change your password
                → Problem solved

                When your biometric data leaks:
                → You can't change your face
                → You can't change your fingerprints
                → The compromise is permanent
                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                mildpeach@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                mildpeach@mstdn.social
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                #10

                @capitainesam or any other biometric…

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                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                  When your password leaks:
                  → Change your password
                  → Problem solved

                  When your biometric data leaks:
                  → You can't change your face
                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                  → The compromise is permanent
                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                  negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @capitainesam

                  > You can't change your face

                  Not with that attitude

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                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

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                    vrek@mastodon.social
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                    #12

                    @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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                    • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                      When your password leaks:
                      → Change your password
                      → Problem solved

                      When your biometric data leaks:
                      → You can't change your face
                      → You can't change your fingerprints
                      → The compromise is permanent
                      → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                      This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                      #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                      simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @capitainesam

                      Just say No to Biometric Identity Verification 🙂🖖

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                      • V vrek@mastodon.social

                        @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam I'm curious and a fan of cyberpunk... What book are you referring to?

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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                        • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                          @vrek @capitainesam I seem to recall that it was William Gibson's Neuromancer; the incident that lead to the main character's nervous system being crippled by the Russian mafia. But it's been awhile since I read it, I could be mistaken.

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                          @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam hmm... I read that too but same as you it's been over a decade, might be time for a re-read

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                          • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                            When your password leaks:
                            → Change your password
                            → Problem solved

                            When your biometric data leaks:
                            → You can't change your face
                            → You can't change your fingerprints
                            → The compromise is permanent
                            → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                            This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                            #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                            htpcnz@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @capitainesam until you start abusing billionaires biometric data, nothing will ever happen... Even then only use of theirs will be quickly outlawed.

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                            • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                              When your password leaks:
                              → Change your password
                              → Problem solved

                              When your biometric data leaks:
                              → You can't change your face
                              → You can't change your fingerprints
                              → The compromise is permanent
                              → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                              This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                              #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                              j_a_clausen@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @capitainesam also, those biometric data will inevitably be leaked. One glimmer of hope is that bit rot will render them useless over time

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                              • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                When your password leaks:
                                → Change your password
                                → Problem solved

                                When your biometric data leaks:
                                → You can't change your face
                                → You can't change your fingerprints
                                → The compromise is permanent
                                → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                mad@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mad@freiburg.social
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                                #18

                                @capitainesam

                                People will find out...

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                                • capitainesam@mastodon.socialC capitainesam@mastodon.social

                                  When your password leaks:
                                  → Change your password
                                  → Problem solved

                                  When your biometric data leaks:
                                  → You can't change your face
                                  → You can't change your fingerprints
                                  → The compromise is permanent
                                  → Your biometric data is in breach databases forever

                                  This is why facial recognition for age verification is dangerous.

                                  #Biometrics #Privacy #Discord

                                  starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  starkrg@myside-yourside.net
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                                  #19

                                  @capitainesam If it's actually biometric data, it's also tied to the algorithm used to calculate it. Too often, though, companies don't just store the biometric data, but the raw data such as an image of your face. They should not be doing that.

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                                  • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                    @capitainesam So maybe you combine biometrics with password/passkey?

                                    One of the foundational stories of cyberpunk illustrated a defense against biometrics fraud. The hackers targeted a victim that used fingerprint login. They managed to get a copy of the victim's fingerprint and used it.

                                    Then the victim's security system kicked in - because the victim always deliberately *failed* the first finger login and used their *second* finger login...

                                    erindesu@tech.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                                    • manchicken@defcon.socialM manchicken@defcon.social

                                      @capitainesam Thanks for the reminder; I'm overdue to rotate my retinas for this quarter.

                                      tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @manchicken@defcon.social @capitainesam@mastodon.social remember to change the colour too!

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                                      • erindesu@tech.lgbtE erindesu@tech.lgbt

                                        @dancingtreefrog @capitainesam ngl i wish of a registring a fingerprint which instead of unlock would just block it completely.

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                                        #22

                                        @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                                        • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                                          @erindesu @capitainesam I've heard of Android apps that could do that, something phone owners could activate when under duress. Sorry, I don't know the names of any of them!

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                                          #23

                                          @dancingtreefrog @erindesu @capitainesam It's called lockdown mode and I think that's a standard android feature now (not OEM-dependent) available as an option after long press of a power button

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