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Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other.

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  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

    Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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    @j_bertolotti The book is allegorical.

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    • edwiebe@mstdn.caE edwiebe@mstdn.ca

      @j_bertolotti The book is allegorical.

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      @edwiebe "Golding got the idea for the plot from The Coral Island, a children's adventure novel with a focus on Christianity and the supposed civilising influence of British colonialism. Golding thought that the book was unrealistic and asked his wife whether it would be a good idea if he "wrote a book about children on an island, children who behave in the way children really would behave?" "
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies#Background

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      • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

        @edwiebe "Golding got the idea for the plot from The Coral Island, a children's adventure novel with a focus on Christianity and the supposed civilising influence of British colonialism. Golding thought that the book was unrealistic and asked his wife whether it would be a good idea if he "wrote a book about children on an island, children who behave in the way children really would behave?" "
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies#Background

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        @j_bertolotti I stand corrected.

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        • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

          Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

          Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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          @j_bertolotti yeah I read about this a few years back but the thing is, these weren't privileged English school kids

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            @j_bertolotti yeah I read about this a few years back but the thing is, these weren't privileged English school kids

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            @erikcats @j_bertolotti

            Lol, exactly what I came here to say

            Most people don't go to abusive mid-20th-century boarding schools

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            • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

              Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

              Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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              @j_bertolotti there's a new lotf series

              I'm not interested, cuz it feels like authoritarian propaganda

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              • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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                @j_bertolotti c.f. Humankind (2019) by Rutger Bregman, and The Dawn of Everything (2021) by David Graeber & David Wengrow for more of this πŸ™‚

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                • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                  Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                  Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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                  @j_bertolotti They weren't British, which, if memory serves, was one of the major actual points of lord of the flies, funnily enough :^)

                  in all seriousness this is a great post that I needed, thanks.

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                  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                    Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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                    @j_bertolotti

                    So why is everyone so mad at me for wearing a mask to stop spreading disease?

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                    • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                      Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                      Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

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                      Tongan castaways - Wikipedia

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                      @j_bertolotti @timrichards I like to think because they were Tongan and not snotty face English school boys

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