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Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other.

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  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

    Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

    delcano@mastorol.esD edwiebe@mstdn.caE erikcats@dice.campE voxofgod@beige.partyV jonathanharker@cloudisland.nzJ 8 Replies Last reply
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    • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

      Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

      Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

      delcano@mastorol.esD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @j_bertolotti I always thought Verne's Two years' vacation hugely superior to the Lord of the Flies

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      • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

        Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

        Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

        edwiebe@mstdn.caE This user is from outside of this forum
        edwiebe@mstdn.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @j_bertolotti The book is allegorical.

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        • edwiebe@mstdn.caE edwiebe@mstdn.ca

          @j_bertolotti The book is allegorical.

          j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
          j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @edwiebe "Golding got the idea for the plot from The Coral Island, a children's adventure novel with a focus on Christianity and the supposed civilising influence of British colonialism. Golding thought that the book was unrealistic and asked his wife whether it would be a good idea if he "wrote a book about children on an island, children who behave in the way children really would behave?" "
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies#Background

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            @edwiebe "Golding got the idea for the plot from The Coral Island, a children's adventure novel with a focus on Christianity and the supposed civilising influence of British colonialism. Golding thought that the book was unrealistic and asked his wife whether it would be a good idea if he "wrote a book about children on an island, children who behave in the way children really would behave?" "
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies#Background

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            @j_bertolotti I stand corrected.

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            • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

              Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

              Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

              erikcats@dice.campE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @j_bertolotti yeah I read about this a few years back but the thing is, these weren't privileged English school kids

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                @j_bertolotti yeah I read about this a few years back but the thing is, these weren't privileged English school kids

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                @erikcats @j_bertolotti

                Lol, exactly what I came here to say

                Most people don't go to abusive mid-20th-century boarding schools

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                • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                  Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                  Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                  @j_bertolotti there's a new lotf series

                  I'm not interested, cuz it feels like authoritarian propaganda

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                  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                    Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

                    jonathanharker@cloudisland.nzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @j_bertolotti c.f. Humankind (2019) by Rutger Bregman, and The Dawn of Everything (2021) by David Graeber & David Wengrow for more of this πŸ™‚

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                    • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                      Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                      Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                      @j_bertolotti They weren't British, which, if memory serves, was one of the major actual points of lord of the flies, funnily enough :^)

                      in all seriousness this is a great post that I needed, thanks.

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                      • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                        Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                        Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

                        abscientist@forall.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @j_bertolotti

                        So why is everyone so mad at me for wearing a mask to stop spreading disease?

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                        • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                          Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                          Most people are good people. Even teenagers πŸ˜‰

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                          @j_bertolotti @timrichards I like to think because they were Tongan and not snotty face English school boys

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