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I started elementary as a high school student.

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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    @danirabbit
    Absolutely, younger generations should have a voice in these matters, as their energy and perspective can offer insights that older individuals might lack.

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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      @danirabbit This is amazing

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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        @danirabbit Working as slaves /s

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        • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

          @tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net @danirabbit@mastodon.online i think that's genuinely what those people want

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          @tragivictoria @tranquillity @danirabbit They’re not content with keeping kids in the metaphorical closet, they gotta lock them in a literal closet too

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          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

            I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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            @danirabbit I tried to re-parse the first sentence of this post like 5 times before giving up and reading ahead to realize what it meant

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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              @danirabbit

              Work / war.
              Than grave. If they can afford to rent one.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?

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                @danirabbit when I saw this boosted I didn't see the preceding post, and thought this was about age restrictions and id etc for social media - which kind of shows your point, how thorough-going this exclusion of the young is.
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                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                  I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                  @danirabbit I don't think "safely" is even relevant. I had unfiltered access to the net since I was ~12 and I turned out fine. A friend told me she started watching porn when she was 13 and she turned out fine.

                  Yes, some people end up as NEETs/shut-ins/incels but those are outliers good for clickbait headlines. If we (decisions should be made by people, not politicians) are to restrict freedoms, we need sufficient proof of a causal relationship.

                  Until them, age-restrictionists can fuck off.

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                  • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                    @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                    Also don't learn about racism, sexism, global warming or activism.

                    I think a big reason for the push to erase kids is Gretta Thunbergs activism because it threatened the oil industry

                    "The most common theme in the banned non-fiction books was activism and social movements."
                    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/07/banned-non-fiction-books-doubles

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                    @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Land of the free...

                    Up until about a year ago, I saw Europe as the last bastion of actual freedom (although we have more restrictions on free speech and I was threatened with cops for things I said online by people who were provably abuser-types and flying monkeys).

                    With the latest wave of restrictions like chat control and age checks, I don't think there's anywhere left.

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                    • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                      @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit She did call out oil company execs by name.

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                      @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Only name and not address? 😉

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                      • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                        @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.

                        Until it's no longer passive, anyway.

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                        @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                        I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.

                        At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.

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                        • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                          @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.

                          Until it's no longer passive, anyway.

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                          @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                          Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.

                          The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.

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                          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                            I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high

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                            @danirabbit I got my start contributing to open source as a high schooler. That was really important for me.

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                            • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                              @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                              Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.

                              The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.

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                              @martin_t

                              Several of the people in the Trump administration definitely want black, brown, and trans people dead.

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                              • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                                @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                                I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.

                                At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.

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                                @martin_t

                                I'm quite depressed and expect that unless the petrostates can be kicked out of power the future for most of us will look like life somewhere between gaza and ukraine.

                                Just the destruction will be more often due to angry weather and only occasionally be due to war.

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                                • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                                  @martin_t

                                  Several of the people in the Trump administration definitely want black, brown, and trans people dead.

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                                  @alienghic No doubt but they're outliers. Issues with this phrasing:

                                  1) you're using an extreme example to characterize a group, it distorts the discussion

                                  2) people will believe you if they already want to but the average person will see a conspiracy theorist and ignore you.

                                  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and repeating that evidence for every new person who hears about it.

                                  Actually killing people is outside the majority's Overton window (for now) so they won't (for now)

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                                  • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                                    @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Only name and not address? 😉

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                                    @martin_t @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit To the best of my knowledge, no.

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                                    • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                                      @drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit

                                      I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.

                                      At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.

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                                      @martin_t @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit I know. I gave up talking about it a long time ago for that very reason.

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                                      • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                                        @martin_t

                                        I'm quite depressed and expect that unless the petrostates can be kicked out of power the future for most of us will look like life somewhere between gaza and ukraine.

                                        Just the destruction will be more often due to angry weather and only occasionally be due to war.

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                                        @alienghic @martin_t Pretty much.

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                                        • martin_t@mastodon.socialM martin_t@mastodon.social

                                          @alienghic No doubt but they're outliers. Issues with this phrasing:

                                          1) you're using an extreme example to characterize a group, it distorts the discussion

                                          2) people will believe you if they already want to but the average person will see a conspiracy theorist and ignore you.

                                          Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and repeating that evidence for every new person who hears about it.

                                          Actually killing people is outside the majority's Overton window (for now) so they won't (for now)

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                                          @martin_t

                                          There will likely be millions dead due to the USAID cuts.

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                                          A new study looks at lives saved by USAID in the past and what the future without the agency will look like.

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                                          NPR (www.npr.org)

                                          Trump and his faction support Israel's ethnic cleansing in Gaza

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                                          Trump’s genocidal plan to ‘clean out’ Gaza was there all along

                                          The US president has clearly had only Israeli and real estate interests at heart.

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                                          Al Jazeera (www.aljazeera.com)

                                          Anti-vaxers are gutting american public health, undermining or even cancelling vaccines to fit with wellness influencer fantasies will also have a significant body count.

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                                          RFK Jr. moves on vaccines could have broad ramifications for public health, says expert | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

                                          Yonatan Grad, professor of immunology and infectious diseases, comments on the potential impact of recent decisions related to vaccines made by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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                                          Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health (hsph.harvard.edu)

                                          Anti-vax ideology led to measles vaccine refusal and several hundred documented deaths in the USA.

                                          Gutting FEMA will lead to more deaths from disasters.

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                                          Some FEMA staff call out Trump cuts in public letter of dissent

                                          More than 180 current and former FEMA employees have published a letter warning of potential disaster due to cuts in the agency.

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                                          AP News (apnews.com)

                                          Dozens have died in the ICE internment camps

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/04/16/ice-deaths-under-trump-administration/89645594007/

                                          ICE stopped paying for prisoner healthcare months ago.

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                                          Records show ICE has stopped paying for detainee medical care as the detained population has nearly doubled, and reports of neglect have mounted.

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                                          (www.cbsnews.com)

                                          There have been significant outbreaks of COVID, Measles, and Tuberculosis over the past few years in ICE interment camps.

                                          Oh right, and ICE straight up shot people on camera.

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