I started elementary as a high school student.
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@Mimesatwork @alienghic @danirabbit The number of people who truly, deeply do not want a better world is distressing. And they're all-in on making sure that doesn't happen.
@drwho @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
There's a bunch of men who really love the idea of domination others and they're killing us all.
‘Petro-masculinity’ is destroying the planet. Can eco-masculinity help save it? | Andrew Boyd
It’s crucial to understanding how gender is affecting our ability to rally behind a shared ecological vision
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
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@drwho @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
There's a bunch of men who really love the idea of domination others and they're killing us all.
‘Petro-masculinity’ is destroying the planet. Can eco-masculinity help save it? | Andrew Boyd
It’s crucial to understanding how gender is affecting our ability to rally behind a shared ecological vision
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Yes. Killing all of us is acceptable to them.
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@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Yes. Killing all of us is acceptable to them.
@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.
Until it's no longer passive, anyway.
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We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
@danirabbit The Satanic Temple is always open
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We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
@danirabbit Some locals and I, as well as several other allied groups, are providing local young people private group access to physical spaces (with their choice of how to characterize the gathering internally and externally), their choice of banned books in print or DRM-free ebooks and audiobooks (hence those compatible with surveillance- and censorship-free apps), their choice of protest music on CD (with use of USB optical drives), their choice of outdoor activity gear (with their choice of coaching), their choice of how to convert one of our elders’ lawns into a permaculture garden, or their choice of art, craft, textile, cullinary, woodwork, electronics, or mechanical supplies (with their choice of volunteer expert guidance).
Outwardly, they may be going to a study group or tutoring session or whatever else they need to call it to keep various controlling people off their backs. Behind closed doors, they may be reading and discussing every book their local school board and library board has taken off the shelves, linking their local banned book club via video with another one in a neighbouring community whose demographics make them targets of locals’ bigotry, sharing in and dancing to each other’s protest music, modding thrifted clothes into body-pluralistic defiance fashion possibly with outer layers to camouflage when expedient, or working with an engineer, a mechanic, and an electrician to convert a pre-enshittification era ICE car into a BEV.
I’m not one of the facilitating older folks with a bunch of unneeded space or free time or saved money to share, but it only takes one or two in the community network to provide them that (or a few more, if groups have markedly different preferred activities). What I bring is experience cat herding and expertise providing and instructing in use of secure and private communications, and decades of studying underground resistance movements. Others bring skills as counsellors or social workers. Others bring expertise in activities the young people choose to do in the private spaces the few well-off community network members donate use of. Others design the public-facing front (such as the study group or volunteering organization website and social media), to let those escaping coercive control conceal what they’re doing.
Organize. Whatever the fash try to deny them, provide. Then step back as much as you can while keeping everyone safe, allow them their privacy, facilitate their autonomy, and follow their lead when they need guidance or support.
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I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
@danirabbit
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I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
@danirabbit This is amazing
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We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
@danirabbit Working as slaves /s
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@tranquillity@mastodon.minionflo.net @danirabbit@mastodon.online i think that's genuinely what those people want
@tragivictoria @tranquillity @danirabbit They’re not content with keeping kids in the metaphorical closet, they gotta lock them in a literal closet too
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I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
@danirabbit I tried to re-parse the first sentence of this post like 5 times before giving up and reading ahead to realize what it meant
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We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
Work / war.
Than grave. If they can afford to rent one. -
We’ve pushed young people completely out of our public physical spaces and now they’re getting pushed out of our digital spaces as well. Where are they supposed to go?
@danirabbit when I saw this boosted I didn't see the preceding post, and thought this was about age restrictions and id etc for social media - which kind of shows your point, how thorough-going this exclusion of the young is. -
I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
@danirabbit I don't think "safely" is even relevant. I had unfiltered access to the net since I was ~12 and I turned out fine. A friend told me she started watching porn when she was 13 and she turned out fine.
Yes, some people end up as NEETs/shut-ins/incels but those are outliers good for clickbait headlines. If we (decisions should be made by people, not politicians) are to restrict freedoms, we need sufficient proof of a causal relationship.
Until them, age-restrictionists can fuck off.
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Also don't learn about racism, sexism, global warming or activism.
I think a big reason for the push to erase kids is Gretta Thunbergs activism because it threatened the oil industry
"The most common theme in the banned non-fiction books was activism and social movements."
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2026/may/07/banned-non-fiction-books-doubles@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Land of the free...
Up until about a year ago, I saw Europe as the last bastion of actual freedom (although we have more restrictions on free speech and I was threatened with cops for things I said online by people who were provably abuser-types and flying monkeys).
With the latest wave of restrictions like chat control and age checks, I don't think there's anywhere left.
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@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit She did call out oil company execs by name.
@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit Only name and not address?

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@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.
Until it's no longer passive, anyway.
@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.
At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.
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@alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit That's why I occasionally say "passive aggressive depopulation strategy." Because that's what this is.
Until it's no longer passive, anyway.
@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.
The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.
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I started elementary as a high school student. When we were building the first versions of our desktop environment, one of our core developers was in high school and his parents accompanied him to the Ubuntu Developer Summit. How many things we have today wouldn’t exist if young people weren’t allowed to participate? The cost of not creating spaces that we can safely share with young people is too high
@danirabbit I got my start contributing to open source as a high schooler. That was really important for me.
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@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
Anyway, their goal is not depopulation, that's just a side effect. Their goal is to have fun, which to them is competing with other rich and anti-social people who has a bigger number in his bank account.
The real issue is constantly letting anti-socials into positions of power instead of democratizing everything - not just governments but companies too - and with direct democracy, not this "vote for parties to control your life" appeasement.
Several of the people in the Trump administration definitely want black, brown, and trans people dead.
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@drwho @alienghic @Mimesatwork @danirabbit
I know what you're trying to say but the issue with phrasing it like this in spaces filled with non-open-minded average people is that it sounds too much like a conspiracy theory.
At the same time I know a bunch of young people who say they're not gonna have kids because they don't want to bring another person into an unjust world. And a bunch of older people then complain about immigration being used to replace us.
I'm quite depressed and expect that unless the petrostates can be kicked out of power the future for most of us will look like life somewhere between gaza and ukraine.
Just the destruction will be more often due to angry weather and only occasionally be due to war.