use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez Crazy bugs.

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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez Never seen that. Currently have two setups: one with Secure Blue for security stuff, and a testing setup with Ubuntu 25.10 and GNOME(both).
Not every piece of hardware works the same with Linux systems. Sometimes exotic hardware or even BIOS/EC firmware can cause unusual behavior.
Pop!_OS is also very stable.
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez Debian is stable. But KDE isn't. And no, that didn't change much after Plasma 6...
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software
@adbenitez It's just the systemd crowd reinventing the wheel, as usual. -
use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez I've experienced this frequently with Debian stable and KDE. Have moved on to fedora KDE where I've not seen this bug anymore.
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez
SystemD, the universal attack surface, was either a terrible idea or an evil idea. ( I was shocked that Debian accepted it. )
I'm going to look into Devuan &c that allow reverting to old init and plain-text logfiles. But how long can they survive backporting to older APIs? -
@adbenitez It's just the systemd crowd reinventing the wheel, as usual.
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@adbenitez Debian is stable. But KDE isn't. And no, that didn't change much after Plasma 6...
Kidding. I know, it's not a KDE replacement.
(Btw., the term "#stable" in "Debian stable" does not refer to software quality, but to the fact, that the packages won't get incompatible upgrades during a release cycle. The addressee is the more the system administrator than the mere user.)
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez I say the glass is half full there - it's a small miracle that that recovery procedure was helpfully shown.
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Kidding. I know, it's not a KDE replacement.
(Btw., the term "#stable" in "Debian stable" does not refer to software quality, but to the fact, that the packages won't get incompatible upgrades during a release cycle. The addressee is the more the system administrator than the mere user.)
@debacle @adbenitez I know. For Debian to be "stable" (as in software quality) they would have to remove kde plasma from their repos

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Kidding. I know, it's not a KDE replacement.
(Btw., the term "#stable" in "Debian stable" does not refer to software quality, but to the fact, that the packages won't get incompatible upgrades during a release cycle. The addressee is the more the system administrator than the mere user.)
@debacle @florke64 @adbenitez #WindowMaker is the retro wm I would turn to on a Jurassic laptop, just saying.
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use #Debian they said, it is stable they said
am I the only person whose Debian stable + KDE is constantly having all kind of weird problems??? this feels so much like unstable beta software

@adbenitez I've run Debian stable with the KDE desktop for years and generally found it perfectly stable and reliable. Personally I find it prettier and more usable than GNOME, but other opinions are available.
The Nvidia driver can cause problems, and some laptops (power saving stuff) are just flakey whatever you do.
I've not seen this on any of my systems, more than a dozen, on a range of different platforms.


