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I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

    @NMBA can you do that now? I have moved servers twice, each time, my followers disappeared. Although, I haven't had to do that terribly recently. YMMV. 🫲😕🫱 @taylorlorenz

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    #251

    @weezmgk Did you go into the settings of your existing account, and point it to your new account?

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    • wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbtW wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt

      @weezmgk Did you go into the settings of your existing account, and point it to your new account?

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      @WolvericCatkin probably not since I don't know how to do that

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      • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

        @WolvericCatkin probably not since I don't know how to do that

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        #253

        @weezmgk Yeah, it's been a core part of the platform as long as I've been a user (since 2022...?), but it's a process you need to actively initiate. I don't remember where it is exactly, but if you open the web app, there should be a section in your account settings, to initiate a migration and deactivate your existing account...

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        • wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbtW wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt

          @weezmgk Yeah, it's been a core part of the platform as long as I've been a user (since 2022...?), but it's a process you need to actively initiate. I don't remember where it is exactly, but if you open the web app, there should be a section in your account settings, to initiate a migration and deactivate your existing account...

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          @WolvericCatkin ok

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          • jonchevreau@mstdn.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #255

            @davew @benroyce Sarcasm Alert!

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            • user47@vmst.ioU user47@vmst.io

              @taylorlorenz tell them it’s just like bluesky, but all of their marketing lies are actually true here

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              #256

              @taylorlorenz @User47 I'm not sure I want the typical Blue sky user here on masto, do you? Bluesky is full of pompous blowhards using it as push media. They don't want engagement, they just want to broadcast self promotion.

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                ck0@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @taylorlorenz I've actually though of how to describe Mastodon in a short way to non techi-people, while keeping in mind what prevented me to join any federated network before.

                The whole point of Mastodon is to put back controls of their social networks to the users. That means it's not design around advertisements and unknown way to select content for you. Instead people run servers around given thematics. There is no need to have algorithms which choose for you content you might be interrested for, instead you find a server which have a community around the same interrests or localisation, and your local timeline will be filled of content from people of the same server, which have the same interrests.
                But as it's federated, nothing prevent you to read content from other users. Because an account creation is easy, you can also have alt-accounts to discover other communities, and follow people from there on you main account. Most of the Mastodon apps can manage multiple accounts.

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                • mike@thecanadian.socialM mike@thecanadian.social

                  @taylorlorenz You own your timeline. Like the early days when social media worked.

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                  #258

                  @mike @taylorlorenz
                  No adverts, no algorithms and you choose exactly what you see and read and who you talk to.

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                    #259

                    There are a lot of technical advantages (and some disadvantages), but for a single point about free expression:

                    There is no singular entity that decides what is acceptable to say, what gets promoted, what gets demoted ("shadow banning"), or causes your account to be deleted.

                    (Sure, there's a lot of abhorrent stuff you can post that will likely get your account or instance widely shunned, blocked and/or defederated. But it's not the decision of any *one* individual or company.)

                    @taylorlorenz

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                    • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                      @taylorlorenz

                      Mastodon is the anti-influence platform

                      On the social web we are
                      - free from the influence of megalomaniacs or any one person
                      - free from the influence of VCs and profit motivations
                      - free from the influence of algorithmic manipulation

                      Plus as a bonus, you can follow a friend's "Instagram" from your "Twitter" account ✨

                      #Fediverse #Mastodon #SocialWeb

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                      @haubles @taylorlorenz and even a friend's "TikTok" 🤓

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                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                        @taylorlorenz @mudaste Say something like "I'm happy to answer this question repeatedly for multiple news channels as I'm sure we all appreciate having a common but diverse environment where many points of view can come from different sources..."

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                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                          @taylorlorenz I'm somewhat new, this far what I notice is: the vibes are not off. On other social networks I feel like a consumer. I scroll. I'm even afraid to post at all. There is a lightness to the place.

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                            @taylorlorenz I just made a mastodon account 6 days ago. I have way more options for how my account looks with skins and multicolumn layout right in settings (instead of a third party app), drill just got suspended and the response from the frazee was basically "oh, did I do that?". i'm not a fan of snotty little shits banning people for nebulous posts.

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                            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                              @taylorlorenz

                              I do not use Mastodon and if it was the only option, I would not be on the Fediverse at all. Thankfully it is not the only option.

                              As far as what I would say about the Fediverse's distributed nature. I would point out the benefits of not having one person, the owner of the centralized social media, make all the decisions. They might even force you to only have one type of Instance 😉.

                              There is a large range of benefits though the top is that no one person will ever control the Fediverse. It was designed to prevent that from being a reality. If a person wants to have someone else make all their decisions for them, then I guess centralized social media is for them. It is definitely not for me. I love the extended control over formatting and style we have. I love the way we can decide what gets propagated (by interacting with it) rather than having that central authority make the decision of what we should see propagated.

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                              • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                @haubles @taylorlorenz that first one really isn’t true though. The fediverse has harmful parasocial and group dynamics just like every other social space. And the concentration of power in instance admins sure adds to that.

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                                @aesthr @taylorlorenz

                                I take your point, but as you say: that’s a people problem not a technology problem. that is true of people wherever they form groups, on and offline. The fediverse is different because unlike other social networking platforms, you can vote with your feet if you find yourself in a social space that doesn’t suit you anymore, by leaving and taking your followers and followings with you.

                                There’s certainly more we can do as a community (and as the Mastodon org) to make our technology more resilient to toxic human dynamics. One thing we want to do is make it a lot easier for anyone to host a Mastodon instance, so if you can’t find a space that suits you, you can make your own. And we’re working on that this year! Another thing we’re considering (but is not on our roadmap right now) is adding post migration, which will make it a lot easier for people to pick up and leave when a space doesn’t suit them anymore.

                                We’re not trying to “fix” people here, but we are trying to make technology that is resilient to our worst habits and impulses instead of actively exploiting and compounding them. How do you think we should try to address this?

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                                • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                                  @haubles @taylorlorenz

                                  *BOOSTS HARD FOR MAXIMUM CLOUT*

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                                  @davep @taylorlorenz

                                  *ALL-FATHERS LET THE CLOUT FLOW THROUGH ME ONE LAST TIME*

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                    @taylorlorenz
                                    My take on it would be:

                                    - no ads
                                    - culture overall against AI slop
                                    - no black-box algorithm
                                    - you create a profile where the rules suit you, while still being connected to the rest of the network
                                    - ... which means it somewhat reflects better how diverse we are. Not "one size fits all" behemoth.
                                    - you can move if things change
                                    - not designed to be adictive, milk your data and drain your wallet

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                                    • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                                      @aesthr @taylorlorenz

                                      I take your point, but as you say: that’s a people problem not a technology problem. that is true of people wherever they form groups, on and offline. The fediverse is different because unlike other social networking platforms, you can vote with your feet if you find yourself in a social space that doesn’t suit you anymore, by leaving and taking your followers and followings with you.

                                      There’s certainly more we can do as a community (and as the Mastodon org) to make our technology more resilient to toxic human dynamics. One thing we want to do is make it a lot easier for anyone to host a Mastodon instance, so if you can’t find a space that suits you, you can make your own. And we’re working on that this year! Another thing we’re considering (but is not on our roadmap right now) is adding post migration, which will make it a lot easier for people to pick up and leave when a space doesn’t suit them anymore.

                                      We’re not trying to “fix” people here, but we are trying to make technology that is resilient to our worst habits and impulses instead of actively exploiting and compounding them. How do you think we should try to address this?

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                                      @haubles it's true that you can move instances when you want, but that's also a very clunky process that puts a lot of people off. and then there's the whole anxiety over losing connections because of how instances are or aren't federating with each other. So I don't think "you can just move" is as simple as people often claim it is.

                                      And it's not just an issue of having to move instances. The relationship people have with their admins can also be a very unhealthy parasocial one.

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                                      • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                        @haubles it's true that you can move instances when you want, but that's also a very clunky process that puts a lot of people off. and then there's the whole anxiety over losing connections because of how instances are or aren't federating with each other. So I don't think "you can just move" is as simple as people often claim it is.

                                        And it's not just an issue of having to move instances. The relationship people have with their admins can also be a very unhealthy parasocial one.

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                                        @haubles I think this is very much a problem caused by the low level design of the fediverse. The way instances work in ActivityPub leads to a few people in powerful positions and that's very much an effect of the technology, not a purely social one.

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                                        • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                          @haubles I think this is very much a problem caused by the low level design of the fediverse. The way instances work in ActivityPub leads to a few people in powerful positions and that's very much an effect of the technology, not a purely social one.

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                                          @aesthr these are good points, and thank you for your feedback! As I said, we definitely want to make account migration and instance hosting better and more accessible. Stay tuned 🙂

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