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I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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    @taylorlorenz Corporate social media is a never ending Benny Hill sketch.

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    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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      @taylorlorenz How often do you hear about people getting banned from their email account? Mastodon enables freedom and decentralization in the way email did/does for communication.

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      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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        @taylorlorenz @JonChevreau it's like browsing a mega-mall of professionals and niche hobbyists and artists and animal lovers and photographers and gardeners and solarpunks and writers and shit posters. Most importantly , very few choads. Like Twitter at its best but not commercialized and purely content driven.

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        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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          @taylorlorenz As a semi-retired financial journalist, Mastodon is usually my first point of call for catching up on political and financial news, plus a more eclectic mix of the arts, health, travel and bizarre miscellany. It works, is free of commercial clutter and the bonus is it’s not owned by the Oligarchy.

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          • pixelpusher220@dmv.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @zymurgic @taylorlorenz

            I've taken to calling FB / Twitter / etc 'Social Media' b/c they want you to consume the media they choose

            Fedi is 'Social Networking' b/c the point is interacting with others.

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            • nikatjef@mastodon.acm.orgN nikatjef@mastodon.acm.org

              @RowinSpeez
              That last is actually not quite true... At least two servers that I was on did change their platform multiple times and even had adds.

              But I was able to simply move to different servers without losing the content I wanted to see.

              @taylorlorenz

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              @RowinSpeez @taylorlorenz @nikatjef no centrally pumped forced ads, but I'd legitimately want to know which server has tried this.

              I did a cursory search and this was a top hit that barely answered the question

              Link Preview Image

              favicon

              (www.reddit.com)

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                @taylorlorenz Bottom-up governance means it serves you, not the other way around, and it's not profit-driven so there's no incentive for manipulation of users in the form of ads and algorithms.

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                • wiredfire@mstdn.socialW wiredfire@mstdn.social

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@cmconseils/116025699004483072

                  Their name is Robert Paulson..

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                  @wiredfire falling down @cmconseils 's meme tunnel was not what I expected to do this evening but I got some great laughs and it reminded me of another thing few people have mentioned to @taylorlorenz - the extensive and enthusiastic use of #alttext to not only make this place more inclusive for those who need it but to make content easier to understand (and in the case of jokes flying over peoples' heads... Also because they need it).

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                  • ben@social.ben.ieB ben@social.ben.ie

                    @taylorlorenz as a platform it is not and can never be adversarial or extractive to you as a user, the way twitter, Facebook, instagram, TikTok and others are or will be.

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                    #236

                    @taylorlorenz @ben the other thing that struck me ages ago was that if I got notifications on Twitter I'd get a bit of an anxiety spike as the network got progressively more toxic.

                    Here, it's 99% pleasant and when it's not, it's still not stressful, just a case of folks getting a little too earnestly pedantic and even those edge cases are weirdly endearing.

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                    • bigolewannabe@hachyderm.ioB bigolewannabe@hachyderm.io

                      @taylorlorenz

                      I'd describe it as tradeoffs.

                      Would we use email the way we do if only Gmail people could email Gmail people? I think it wouldn't.

                      So email is better (not without issues like spam) because anybody can email anybody.

                      Mastodon/Fediverse provides similar benefits (and some problems) that "federated email" provide compared to siloed email.

                      I would argue the benefits outweigh the negatives.

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                      @taylorlorenz @bigolewannabe and given the weird ways Google has been presumably trying to fight spam, it's in some ways breaking email.

                      I try to email folks from my third party email service and Gmail will periodically block my legitimate messages if I cc too many Gmail people, so I have to use a mass email product instead to reach them which.... Hurts my head.

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                      • livcomp@hachyderm.ioL livcomp@hachyderm.io

                        @futurebird @taylorlorenz
                        "federated network" has some nice flavors (currently the word "federal" notwithstanding), and sets folks up for this fine fediverse of ours.

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                        @futurebird @livcomp I mean the world is bigger than the US. Federal or Confederation, to think in Canadian, is considered a good thing elsewhere 🙂

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                        • alessandro@mstdn.caA alessandro@mstdn.ca

                          @taylorlorenz

                          It's like, imagine if a single company owned all the TV stations and news outlets?

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                          @alessandro
                          You mean kinda like Bezos owns Amazon (with Amazon Prime Video) and the Washington Post?
                          @taylorlorenz

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                            @taylorlorenz

                            I tend to argue with the infamous Enshittification cycle:

                            Commercial platforms are initially good for users until they capture the market. Then they make things worse for users in order to sell them out to other commercial interests. Then they make things worse for their business partners too in order to make more money.

                            Decentralized, non-commercial media avoid this trap:

                            They have no financial motive to make the user experience worse.

                            And if a specific instance does get worse, their users can move elsewhere and take their social media connections with them.

                            Thus, decentralized, non-commercial social media can actually get _better_ over time, while commercial "walled gardens" will only get worse over time.

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                              @futurebird @diraquel @utopiarte notifications from my closest friends are my solution too

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                              • dp0@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @catnip @taylorlorenz Interconnectivity, the way the internet was meant to be. No matter which provider, client, or technology you're using, you still can connect an communicate with everyone.

                                Corporations want to achieve that through monopolies, whilst the fediverse (of which Mastodon is part of) does so by using common and non-proprietary standards.

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                                • dannotdaniel@hellions.cloudD dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud

                                  @taylorlorenz I really struggled to boil this down in a quote toot but I'll try for a simpler answer here: it's ELON proof

                                  and custom emojis

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                                  @dannotdaniel @taylorlorenz my version is that it can't be bought by billionaires, and if a billionaire sweeps in and buys a large server we just fediblock that server.

                                  See also Bluesky.

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                    eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @taylorlorenz i would personally focus on how fedi, by its nature, is moderated by real people with a real stake in their community. i think much of why this platform is better than corporate platforms is moderation via social contract

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                                    • krupo@infosec.exchangeK krupo@infosec.exchange

                                      @futurebird @livcomp I mean the world is bigger than the US. Federal or Confederation, to think in Canadian, is considered a good thing elsewhere 🙂

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                                      @krupo @futurebird for sure it is, and the USA is also kinda deflating these days.. i think all roads should lead to 'fediverse' as the place we are and the place to be.

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                                      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                        @taylorlorenz Tbh, the most challenging benefit to highlight, is how much abusive content your admins are probably protecting you from... The one experience of harassment I have had since I started using Mastodon was also pretty cool, as after I reported the account, their instance administrators almost immediately handled it, by deleting their account... Maybe they'd just been going under the radar, but I guess they didn't like their extensive history of that sort of behaviour...

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                                        • S scottgrimmett@mastodon.au

                                          @taylorlorenz If you research washing machines online, Mastodon won’t start trying to sell you one.

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                                          @ScottGrimmett @taylorlorenz I have one to sell.

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