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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

    *4 hours later*
    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

    mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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    mahryekuh@hachyderm.io
    wrote last edited by
    #18

    @nixCraft If we ever get a Ten Commandments for programming, one of them should be:

    "Thou shalt not write thy own email regex."

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

      *4 hours later*
      me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

      endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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      endlessmason@hachyderm.io
      wrote last edited by
      #19

      @nixCraft
      At your point it might be easier to just search haveibeenpwned for the address

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      • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

        @nixCraft If we ever get a Ten Commandments for programming, one of them should be:

        "Thou shalt not write thy own email regex."

        curiously@mastodon.auC This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #20

        @mahryekuh @nixCraft I thought it was reserved as a karmic punishment,
        you shall be cast into the darkness with the regex nought to return until the email be atuned
        type stuff
        Or was that a nightmare. . .?

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        • zephyrxero@layer8.spaceZ zephyrxero@layer8.space

          @nixCraft RegEx, almost always the wrong choice

          orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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          orb2069@mastodon.online
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          #21

          @zephyrxero @nixCraft
          "I should have used logic, but this keeps the complexity rating down."

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

            *4 hours later*
            me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

            romion00bie@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            romion00bie@mastodon.social
            wrote last edited by
            #22

            @nixCraft Unwanted Summonings in Cyberspace

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

              *4 hours later*
              me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

              simon@gotosocial.grnwds.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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              simon@gotosocial.grnwds.uk
              wrote last edited by
              #23

              @nixCraft
              I gave up when I realised emojis were valid characters in email addresses.

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                *4 hours later*
                me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                pedersen@mastodon.artP This user is from outside of this forum
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                pedersen@mastodon.art
                wrote last edited by
                #24

                @nixCraft The plural of "regex" is "regrets" 😄

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                • foo__@mastodon.socialF foo__@mastodon.social

                  @nixCraft regex might be hard, the email addresses RFC is "wild", cf.

                  Link Preview Image
                  Email is Easy

                  Everyone knows what an email address is, right?

                  favicon

                  e-mail.wtf (e-mail.wtf)

                  kasperd@westergaard.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #25

                  The answer that quiz gives on question 7 is not how I read the RFC. I looked at both RFC 821 and RFC 5321, neither permits spaces in an unqouted local-part.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                    *4 hours later*
                    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

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                    spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
                    wrote last edited by
                    #26

                    @nixCraft

                    Did you find the needle in the haystack yet? /s

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                    • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                      The answer that quiz gives on question 7 is not how I read the RFC. I looked at both RFC 821 and RFC 5321, neither permits spaces in an unqouted local-part.

                      project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #27

                      @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                      I'd think in a dot-atom spaces around the dot would be ok?

                      That's foo . (Comment) bar @ something . com

                      At least in "obsolete" syntax.

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                      • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                        @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                        I'd think in a dot-atom spaces around the dot would be ok?

                        That's foo . (Comment) bar @ something . com

                        At least in "obsolete" syntax.

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                        project1enigma@chaos.social
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                        #28

                        @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                        Probably even with line folds.

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                        • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                          @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                          Probably even with line folds.

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                          #29

                          @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                          Depending on use case you could make a regex for a reasonable subset still as long as it's ok for you to reject some theoretically valid addresses.

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                          • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                            @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                            Depending on use case you could make a regex for a reasonable subset still as long as it's ok for you to reject some theoretically valid addresses.

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                            #30

                            @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                            (Ok, my previous example was RFC 5322, for headers, not 5321 for addresses as used in the SMTP transaction...)

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                              *4 hours later*
                              me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                              qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              qgustavor@urusai.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #31

                              @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

                              And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

                              On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                *4 hours later*
                                me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

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                                #32

                                @nixCraft My experience tells me that if you have a problem and you solve it with regular expressions, you have two problems.

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                  *4 hours later*
                                  me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                  negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #33

                                  @nixCraft
                                  This reads like @cstross parody fiction and I mean that as a compliment.

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                    *4 hours later*
                                    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                    pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #34

                                    @nixCraft

                                    At least the ancient demon is bound to serve you, and not eat you until it provides you with a perfect email parsing library, right?

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                                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                      me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                      *4 hours later*
                                      me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                      drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      drangnon@hachyderm.io
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #35

                                      @nixCraft https://regex101.com/ is your friend, your very very good friend

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                                      • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

                                        @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

                                        And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

                                        On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

                                        kawazoe@transfem.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        kawazoe@transfem.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #36

                                        @qgustavor@urusai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social you have successfully summoned a debate war by forgetting that user@localhost is a valid email, so is user@::1, and any other locally resolved name and ipv6 address. Just containing a @ is more than enough if you already try to send an email to it. 😉

                                        Seriously though, enforcing a dot in the domain is probably reasonable for most publicly accessible email servers.

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                          *4 hours later*
                                          me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                          wyldphyre@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wyldphyre@mastodon.world
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #37

                                          @nixCraft Can the daemon validate things for you?

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