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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

    *4 hours later*
    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

    endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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    endlessmason@hachyderm.io
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    #19

    @nixCraft
    At your point it might be easier to just search haveibeenpwned for the address

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    • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

      @nixCraft If we ever get a Ten Commandments for programming, one of them should be:

      "Thou shalt not write thy own email regex."

      curiously@mastodon.auC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      @mahryekuh @nixCraft I thought it was reserved as a karmic punishment,
      you shall be cast into the darkness with the regex nought to return until the email be atuned
      type stuff
      Or was that a nightmare. . .?

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      • zephyrxero@layer8.spaceZ zephyrxero@layer8.space

        @nixCraft RegEx, almost always the wrong choice

        orb2069@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #21

        @zephyrxero @nixCraft
        "I should have used logic, but this keeps the complexity rating down."

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

          *4 hours later*
          me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

          romion00bie@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          romion00bie@mastodon.social
          wrote last edited by
          #22

          @nixCraft Unwanted Summonings in Cyberspace

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

            *4 hours later*
            me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

            simon@gotosocial.grnwds.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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            simon@gotosocial.grnwds.uk
            wrote last edited by
            #23

            @nixCraft
            I gave up when I realised emojis were valid characters in email addresses.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

              *4 hours later*
              me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

              pedersen@mastodon.artP This user is from outside of this forum
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              pedersen@mastodon.art
              wrote last edited by
              #24

              @nixCraft The plural of "regex" is "regrets" 😄

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              • foo__@mastodon.socialF foo__@mastodon.social

                @nixCraft regex might be hard, the email addresses RFC is "wild", cf.

                Link Preview Image
                Email is Easy

                Everyone knows what an email address is, right?

                favicon

                e-mail.wtf (e-mail.wtf)

                kasperd@westergaard.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                kasperd@westergaard.social
                wrote last edited by
                #25

                The answer that quiz gives on question 7 is not how I read the RFC. I looked at both RFC 821 and RFC 5321, neither permits spaces in an unqouted local-part.

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                  *4 hours later*
                  me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

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                  spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                  #26

                  @nixCraft

                  Did you find the needle in the haystack yet? /s

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                  • kasperd@westergaard.socialK kasperd@westergaard.social

                    The answer that quiz gives on question 7 is not how I read the RFC. I looked at both RFC 821 and RFC 5321, neither permits spaces in an unqouted local-part.

                    project1enigma@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #27

                    @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                    I'd think in a dot-atom spaces around the dot would be ok?

                    That's foo . (Comment) bar @ something . com

                    At least in "obsolete" syntax.

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                    • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                      @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                      I'd think in a dot-atom spaces around the dot would be ok?

                      That's foo . (Comment) bar @ something . com

                      At least in "obsolete" syntax.

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                      #28

                      @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                      Probably even with line folds.

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                      • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                        @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                        Probably even with line folds.

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #29

                        @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                        Depending on use case you could make a regex for a reasonable subset still as long as it's ok for you to reject some theoretically valid addresses.

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                        • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                          @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                          Depending on use case you could make a regex for a reasonable subset still as long as it's ok for you to reject some theoretically valid addresses.

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                          #30

                          @kasperd @foo__ @nixCraft

                          (Ok, my previous example was RFC 5322, for headers, not 5321 for addresses as used in the SMTP transaction...)

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                            *4 hours later*
                            me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                            qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #31

                            @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

                            And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

                            On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                              *4 hours later*
                              me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                              iliaf@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #32

                              @nixCraft My experience tells me that if you have a problem and you solve it with regular expressions, you have two problems.

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                *4 hours later*
                                me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #33

                                @nixCraft
                                This reads like @cstross parody fiction and I mean that as a compliment.

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                                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                  me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                  *4 hours later*
                                  me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                  pseudonym@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #34

                                  @nixCraft

                                  At least the ancient demon is bound to serve you, and not eat you until it provides you with a perfect email parsing library, right?

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                    *4 hours later*
                                    me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                    drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    drangnon@hachyderm.io
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #35

                                    @nixCraft https://regex101.com/ is your friend, your very very good friend

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                                    • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

                                      @nixCraft Either you use something simple like .*@.*\..* (at least an at-sign and a dot after it) and send an e-mail with an link or you will summon a debate war on if the complete e-mail standards should be followed or not.

                                      And, if you choose to follow the standards, I have to warn you (and I guess some people had warned you already) that most e-mail servers do not follow the standard (like Cloudflare).

                                      On the other hand, I just sent a message from "example+';DROP/**/TABLE/**/users;#"@gmail.com to example@some-domain-of-mine and it arrived. I hope you never need to deal with addresses like those.

                                      kawazoe@transfem.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      kawazoe@transfem.social
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                                      #36

                                      @qgustavor@urusai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social you have successfully summoned a debate war by forgetting that user@localhost is a valid email, so is user@::1, and any other locally resolved name and ipv6 address. Just containing a @ is more than enough if you already try to send an email to it. 😉

                                      Seriously though, enforcing a dot in the domain is probably reasonable for most publicly accessible email servers.

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                        *4 hours later*
                                        me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                        wyldphyre@mastodon.worldW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wyldphyre@mastodon.world
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #37

                                        @nixCraft Can the daemon validate things for you?

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          me: i need to validate some email addresses, so i am going to write a quick regex. how hard can it be?

                                          *4 hours later*
                                          me. i now have 2 problems and one of them is that I've accidentally summoned an ancient daemon. wht the actual fuck

                                          strawhousepig@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          strawhousepig@mastodon.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #38

                                          @nixCraft now toss moving between BSD/macOS and GNU into the mix.

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