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So tomorrow is the big day that I've been... anticipating... for months now: my first appointment with a psychiatrist.

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  • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

    So tomorrow is the big day that I've been... anticipating... for months now: my first appointment with a psychiatrist. And yeah, I'm a bit nervous. First of all, what kind will they be: a nice, caring person who actually listens and is well informed about and supportive of neurodiversity? Or an old-school, manipulative elitist who likes having control over people and may have more control over my life than I want them to? How much self advocacy am I going to have to do? (Of course I've been madly scripting since I got the appointment.) And how much of that will do any good?

    And then there is the possibility that, thanks to a misunderstanding with another doctor, that this one will likely think that I am there to get a diagnosis for autism and adhd. But really what I want is someone to talk to about my situation, goals, and options, like how to navigate the system and whether a diagnosis would benefit me more than any potential drawbacks. I worry that when told this that they will get angry and tell me that I just wasted their time (typical RSD). (sigh) I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 😬

    #ActuallyAutistic @autistics #ActuallyADHD #AuDHD

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    • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

      So tomorrow is the big day that I've been... anticipating... for months now: my first appointment with a psychiatrist. And yeah, I'm a bit nervous. First of all, what kind will they be: a nice, caring person who actually listens and is well informed about and supportive of neurodiversity? Or an old-school, manipulative elitist who likes having control over people and may have more control over my life than I want them to? How much self advocacy am I going to have to do? (Of course I've been madly scripting since I got the appointment.) And how much of that will do any good?

      And then there is the possibility that, thanks to a misunderstanding with another doctor, that this one will likely think that I am there to get a diagnosis for autism and adhd. But really what I want is someone to talk to about my situation, goals, and options, like how to navigate the system and whether a diagnosis would benefit me more than any potential drawbacks. I worry that when told this that they will get angry and tell me that I just wasted their time (typical RSD). (sigh) I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 😬

      #ActuallyAutistic @autistics #ActuallyADHD #AuDHD

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      @murdoc @autistics
      I love that you know there are two kinds of psychiatrists. And I bet you've rehearsed scripts for both scenarios.
      Hoping you get the kindness one where you can be vulnerable and explore your needs n goals n whatnot. 🀞

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      • vlrny@disabled.socialV vlrny@disabled.social

        @murdoc @autistics
        I love that you know there are two kinds of psychiatrists. And I bet you've rehearsed scripts for both scenarios.
        Hoping you get the kindness one where you can be vulnerable and explore your needs n goals n whatnot. 🀞

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        @vlrny @autistics
        😊 Thanks!
        Yeah, I've probably heard more horror stories than good ones, but for the sake of small sample sizes all around, I'm trying to assume a bell-curve probability distribution, and most likely get one in the middle somewhere. Intellectually anyway. The emotions have their own working theories. πŸ˜›

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        • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

          @vlrny @autistics
          😊 Thanks!
          Yeah, I've probably heard more horror stories than good ones, but for the sake of small sample sizes all around, I'm trying to assume a bell-curve probability distribution, and most likely get one in the middle somewhere. Intellectually anyway. The emotions have their own working theories. πŸ˜›

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          @murdoc @autistics I encountered a couple good ones in a row, which left me backfooted when I ran into the "old-school, manipulative elitists" (a perceptive phrase I will treasure, btw). So there's definitely both out there. I'm hoping to get faster at identifying and then dialing my expectations.
          It's high stakes stuff, emotionally, for sure. πŸ’›

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            @murdoc @autistics I encountered a couple good ones in a row, which left me backfooted when I ran into the "old-school, manipulative elitists" (a perceptive phrase I will treasure, btw). So there's definitely both out there. I'm hoping to get faster at identifying and then dialing my expectations.
            It's high stakes stuff, emotionally, for sure. πŸ’›

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            @vlrny @autistics
            Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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            • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

              So tomorrow is the big day that I've been... anticipating... for months now: my first appointment with a psychiatrist. And yeah, I'm a bit nervous. First of all, what kind will they be: a nice, caring person who actually listens and is well informed about and supportive of neurodiversity? Or an old-school, manipulative elitist who likes having control over people and may have more control over my life than I want them to? How much self advocacy am I going to have to do? (Of course I've been madly scripting since I got the appointment.) And how much of that will do any good?

              And then there is the possibility that, thanks to a misunderstanding with another doctor, that this one will likely think that I am there to get a diagnosis for autism and adhd. But really what I want is someone to talk to about my situation, goals, and options, like how to navigate the system and whether a diagnosis would benefit me more than any potential drawbacks. I worry that when told this that they will get angry and tell me that I just wasted their time (typical RSD). (sigh) I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 😬

              #ActuallyAutistic @autistics #ActuallyADHD #AuDHD

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              @murdoc @autistics
              Wishing you well with this.🀞

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              • murdoc@autistics.lifeM murdoc@autistics.life

                So tomorrow is the big day that I've been... anticipating... for months now: my first appointment with a psychiatrist. And yeah, I'm a bit nervous. First of all, what kind will they be: a nice, caring person who actually listens and is well informed about and supportive of neurodiversity? Or an old-school, manipulative elitist who likes having control over people and may have more control over my life than I want them to? How much self advocacy am I going to have to do? (Of course I've been madly scripting since I got the appointment.) And how much of that will do any good?

                And then there is the possibility that, thanks to a misunderstanding with another doctor, that this one will likely think that I am there to get a diagnosis for autism and adhd. But really what I want is someone to talk to about my situation, goals, and options, like how to navigate the system and whether a diagnosis would benefit me more than any potential drawbacks. I worry that when told this that they will get angry and tell me that I just wasted their time (typical RSD). (sigh) I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 😬

                #ActuallyAutistic @autistics #ActuallyADHD #AuDHD

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                @murdoc I hope it goes well!

                Note that psychiatrists in Alberta don't really do talk therapy or behavioural strategy (they'd refer you to a therapist for that), and that means that the approach to diagnosis seems to lean towards rapid-fire questions based on their DSM checklists (followed possibly by more formal diagnostic surveys). But talking to them about the pros or cons of a formal diagnosis process sounds to me 100% appropriate for your first session.

                And they get paid the same for the appointment whether you continue in the process or not, so you're not wasting their time!

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                • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

                  @murdoc I hope it goes well!

                  Note that psychiatrists in Alberta don't really do talk therapy or behavioural strategy (they'd refer you to a therapist for that), and that means that the approach to diagnosis seems to lean towards rapid-fire questions based on their DSM checklists (followed possibly by more formal diagnostic surveys). But talking to them about the pros or cons of a formal diagnosis process sounds to me 100% appropriate for your first session.

                  And they get paid the same for the appointment whether you continue in the process or not, so you're not wasting their time!

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                  @AmeliasBrain
                  That's great to hear, very reassuring. Thanks!

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                  • ameliasbrain@mstdn.caA ameliasbrain@mstdn.ca

                    @murdoc I hope it goes well!

                    Note that psychiatrists in Alberta don't really do talk therapy or behavioural strategy (they'd refer you to a therapist for that), and that means that the approach to diagnosis seems to lean towards rapid-fire questions based on their DSM checklists (followed possibly by more formal diagnostic surveys). But talking to them about the pros or cons of a formal diagnosis process sounds to me 100% appropriate for your first session.

                    And they get paid the same for the appointment whether you continue in the process or not, so you're not wasting their time!

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                    @AmeliasBrain @murdoc psychiatrists in the states basicalky do medication dispersion, psychologists are the ones that diagnose and refer. therapists do, well, therapy. psychiatrists are medical doctors, psychologists have a phD, and therapists have a masters degree. i dunno if theres the same distinction in canada.

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                    • emily_rugburn@lgbtqia.spaceE emily_rugburn@lgbtqia.space

                      @AmeliasBrain @murdoc psychiatrists in the states basicalky do medication dispersion, psychologists are the ones that diagnose and refer. therapists do, well, therapy. psychiatrists are medical doctors, psychologists have a phD, and therapists have a masters degree. i dunno if theres the same distinction in canada.

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                      @emily_rugburn @murdoc It's probably pretty similar re qualifications, but the psychiatrist vs psychologist distinction is complicated by needing a medical doctor's diagnosis or referral for health care coverage.

                      So GPs seem to always send you to a psychiatrist for an initial assessment, and then they refer you to the other options (with the possibility of going back for prescriptions, since that part's the same).

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