Does anyone know exactly what features will I lose when I refuse to age-verify with Apple?

[antonyh@infosec.exchange]

Does anyone know exactly what features will I lose when I refuse to age-verify with Apple?

#ios #apple #ageverification

[aakl@infosec.exchange]

@antonyh Not too many specifics here.

"Web Content Filter and Communication Safety are automatically turned on for kids, teens, as well as adults who haven't confirmed their age."

Age requirements for managing an Apple Account in the UK - Apple Support

Some Apple Account settings and feature requirements for children, teens, and adults will vary depending on your country or region.

Apple Support (support.apple.com)

[antonyh@infosec.exchange]

@AAKL fun times ahead, automated censorship and the end of the open web as we know it. Vague filters applied, thanks Apple.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@antonyh @AAKL You blame Apple instead of your politicians ... an odd stance.

[antonyh@infosec.exchange]

@bitterseeds @AAKL This time it's not directly the UK Government, but Apple who have unilaterally taken action.

"Ofcom, the UK’s communications regulator, praised Apple for the decision, especially since it’s not required to implement age verification for the iOS or its App Store under the region’s Online Safety Act."

Apple didn't need to do this.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@antonyh @AAKL 🫡

[aakl@infosec.exchange]

@bitterseeds @antonyh Apple was being pressured by the UK government. Now Apple has decided to apply its own solution ahead of the curve. It won't be well-received.

[ppb1701@ppb.social]

@antonyh @bitterseeds @AAKL then why do this? I mean if it was EU I might think someone up the food chain was like "fine, wanna play with the app store?" But this probably going to be required places around the globe eventually (way the trends have moved "for the children") but why be like hear have this privacy invasive thing when your public motto is privacy and users first? (Granted that /is/ more of a pr than a real view in more than you might think)

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@AAKL @antonyh This is what I was saying, they bowed to pressure from the Gov.
I don't expect it to be well received, that wasn't my comment. I live in California with it's bad law that violates our Federal laws but everyone seems to be bowing to it. It's horseshit but I blame the Gov, not the software.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@ppb1701 @antonyh @AAKL It is a PR stunt but then again the EU has been beating on Apple for years. The chose not to have the headache and cost of court battles. Is what it is but it's mostly that.

[aakl@infosec.exchange]

@bitterseeds @ppb1701 @antonyh All true, but is this the right answer?

[ppb1701@ppb.social]

@AAKL @bitterseeds @antonyh debatable. There is logic that the device doing it might be more reliable and "secure" than every site or app doing a million different methods. But that does not change the fact it is still a privacy risk and arguably and overreach. I'm all for some reasonable rules and responsibilities....but that includes the parent (or guardians) should be well parenting.

[finchhaven@sfba.social]

@bitterseeds

It's a business decision being made by a business

Apple

You may have heard of them

Not many politicians running the Apple business where I live

How about where you live?

cc @antonyh @AAKL

[aakl@infosec.exchange]

@ppb1701 @bitterseeds @antonyh It is overreach. If you don't verify, the company will rummage through your credit records to determine your age. The biggest problem I see with this now is that other companies will adopt a similar approach.

[ppb1701@ppb.social]

@AAKL @bitterseeds @antonyh totally. And every area that has done like porn site age checks or social media age checks is going to scream "make apple, google, microsoft deal with i....Apple already showed it can."

Of course there's no real guarantee they wont use that info for other things.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@AAKL @ppb1701 @antonyh All Apple has to do is check against the age of the Apple ID, mine is almost 20 years old. If they did that and said nothing, no one would have cause to be up in arms. But all this is a bucket of dumb. It's requirements without direction just a vague "do the thing". It's BS.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@FinchHaven @antonyh @AAKL no need to be a snarky prick. These companies are being directed both overtly and covertly to do this. Don't BE that person who gets all high and mighty about things. sheesh.

[bitterseeds@fosstodon.org]

@FinchHaven @antonyh @AAKL I live in California about 40 miles from Apple HQ, I've been in tech professionally for about 35 years so yeah. *ding* try again to make me feel small. It won't work.

[finchhaven@sfba.social]

@bitterseeds

"Don't be that person who gets all paranoid and panicky about every conspiracy theory he thinks up"

Also, bye...

cc @antonyh @AAKL

[antonyh@infosec.exchange]

@bitterseeds @FinchHaven @AAKL How long you have been in tech, and how far you are from Apple HQ has no bearing on how wrong you are on this matter, and Apple are interfering in UK politics. The sooner the UK & the EU can kill their dependencies on US tech the better.