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Does anyone know exactly what features will I lose when I refuse to age-verify with Apple?

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  • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

    @bitterseeds

    It's a business decision being made by a business

    Apple

    You may have heard of them

    Not many politicians running the Apple business where I live

    How about where you live?

    cc @antonyh @AAKL

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    @FinchHaven @antonyh @AAKL I live in California about 40 miles from Apple HQ, I've been in tech professionally for about 35 years so yeah. *ding* try again to make me feel small. It won't work.

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    • bitterseeds@fosstodon.orgB bitterseeds@fosstodon.org

      @FinchHaven @antonyh @AAKL no need to be a snarky prick. These companies are being directed both overtly and covertly to do this. Don't BE that person who gets all high and mighty about things. sheesh.

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      @bitterseeds

      "Don't be that person who gets all paranoid and panicky about every conspiracy theory he thinks up"

      Also, bye...

      cc @antonyh @AAKL

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      • bitterseeds@fosstodon.orgB bitterseeds@fosstodon.org

        @FinchHaven @antonyh @AAKL I live in California about 40 miles from Apple HQ, I've been in tech professionally for about 35 years so yeah. *ding* try again to make me feel small. It won't work.

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        @bitterseeds @FinchHaven @AAKL How long you have been in tech, and how far you are from Apple HQ has no bearing on how wrong you are on this matter, and Apple are interfering in UK politics. The sooner the UK & the EU can kill their dependencies on US tech the better.

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        • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

          @bitterseeds

          It's a business decision being made by a business

          Apple

          You may have heard of them

          Not many politicians running the Apple business where I live

          How about where you live?

          cc @antonyh @AAKL

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          @FinchHaven @bitterseeds @AAKL as for the business decision, that greatly depends on what the business benefit of age verification is. It's flimsy.

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          • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

            @bitterseeds

            "Don't be that person who gets all paranoid and panicky about every conspiracy theory he thinks up"

            Also, bye...

            cc @antonyh @AAKL

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            @FinchHaven

            You try to dress me down with snarky insults and post that quote. Nice! I bet your answers to Linux questions are "RTFM, moron". 🤦‍♂️

            Whatever.

            @antonyh @AAKL

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            • antonyh@infosec.exchangeA antonyh@infosec.exchange

              @bitterseeds @FinchHaven @AAKL How long you have been in tech, and how far you are from Apple HQ has no bearing on how wrong you are on this matter, and Apple are interfering in UK politics. The sooner the UK & the EU can kill their dependencies on US tech the better.

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              #23

              @antonyh @AAKL I was addressing @FinchHaven because they felt like making holier-than-thou comments. 🤷

              EU forces Google, Apple and the rest to change their business ... like the current complaint from broadcasters about AppleTV and Siri.

              Understand, I'm not defending Apple. I could careless except that it's the otherway around ... the Gov. is fucking with the citizenry and corps. My point was blame the Gov.

              Anyway, I have work to do. 🫡

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              • antonyh@infosec.exchangeA antonyh@infosec.exchange

                @FinchHaven @bitterseeds @AAKL as for the business decision, that greatly depends on what the business benefit of age verification is. It's flimsy.

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                @antonyh @FinchHaven @AAKL I don't disagree. Just saying the Gov. sets the rules or have told these corps and indie devs what is coming down the pipe. The Gov. is to blame for this, just like in California, Colorado, Brazil and elsewhere.

                Do you think I want this BS in FOSS projects? Hell no. Do I blame FOSS devs for things? Nope. I blame the Governments.

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                • antonyh@infosec.exchangeA antonyh@infosec.exchange

                  Does anyone know exactly what features will I lose when I refuse to age-verify with Apple?

                  #ios #apple #ageverification

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                  #25

                  Accidentally ended up updating. Not happy but can check a few things and report back.

                  It looks like apps still work, music all seems to play, streaming video apps are normal.

                  I can still watch Platoon on iPlayer.

                  I can still listen to music with explicit lyrics.

                  Signal and Whatsapp seem ok. Linkedin downloaded and ran, but I didn't login. Some websites are blocked but Virgin Media blocks some anyway. I guess I'll not be able to buy lingerie from ONE well-known high street brand on iOS... plenty of others work. This is brand manipulation.

                  ... or until the definition of 'restricted' content changes.

                  Eventually though, I'll have to update for other reasons. The OSA should never have been implemented into law, and Apple should not have overreached into the UK like this. It's not their role to play, policiing the Internet. Who controls the block list? Who monitors this for abuses?

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                  • antonyh@infosec.exchangeA antonyh@infosec.exchange

                    Accidentally ended up updating. Not happy but can check a few things and report back.

                    It looks like apps still work, music all seems to play, streaming video apps are normal.

                    I can still watch Platoon on iPlayer.

                    I can still listen to music with explicit lyrics.

                    Signal and Whatsapp seem ok. Linkedin downloaded and ran, but I didn't login. Some websites are blocked but Virgin Media blocks some anyway. I guess I'll not be able to buy lingerie from ONE well-known high street brand on iOS... plenty of others work. This is brand manipulation.

                    ... or until the definition of 'restricted' content changes.

                    Eventually though, I'll have to update for other reasons. The OSA should never have been implemented into law, and Apple should not have overreached into the UK like this. It's not their role to play, policiing the Internet. Who controls the block list? Who monitors this for abuses?

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                    I can still access gambling sites. The whole thing is a sham.

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                    • bitterseeds@fosstodon.orgB bitterseeds@fosstodon.org

                      @AAKL @antonyh This is what I was saying, they bowed to pressure from the Gov.
                      I don't expect it to be well received, that wasn't my comment. I live in California with it's bad law that violates our Federal laws but everyone seems to be bowing to it. It's horseshit but I blame the Gov, not the software.

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                      Blame _both_.

                      @bitterseeds

                      @AAKL @antonyh
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