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Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

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  • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

    Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

    #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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    @gamingonlinux I'm not a fan of this. Even the author acknowledges that "LLMs are inevitable, and the reality is that you can expect less organically grown code as time goes on" and that exceptions are necessary: "Exceptions may be granted for mature, well-maintained projects."

    I hope this is a temporary solution before a more transparent policy can be developed.

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    • alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA alethenorio@fosstodon.org

      @gamingonlinux the wording on that is a bit sad. There are people who submit total AI slop however those of us using the tools correctly will submit code that looks no different than what a person might write themselves by hand.

      I wonder how they intend to deal with that (as in what do you do if you can't even tell it is AI generated).

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      @alethenorio @gamingonlinux "Using the tools correctly" is a myth. There is no "correct" use for generative AI.

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      • terrorbite@meow.socialT terrorbite@meow.social

        @alethenorio You could ask @barthalion yourself.

        If the intent is to target the low hanging fruit, the people who put zero actual effort into developing software, then you're not the target and have nothing to worry about.

        Personally I'm in support of this. I am certainly of the opinion that if someone isn't able to fully understand what an AI is producing, then they shouldn't be using AI.

        @gamingonlinux

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        @TerrorBite @alethenorio @gamingonlinux copy-pasting my response from another thread

        > If the project has community engagement, release cadence, CI, and seems to have been more than pure slop produced in 3 weeks, it would be likely exempted. That’s how the bar already was before that commit, and yet, here we are.

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        • alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA alethenorio@fosstodon.org

          @gamingonlinux the wording on that is a bit sad. There are people who submit total AI slop however those of us using the tools correctly will submit code that looks no different than what a person might write themselves by hand.

          I wonder how they intend to deal with that (as in what do you do if you can't even tell it is AI generated).

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          @alethenorio @gamingonlinux There is no correct use of these tools.

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          • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

            Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

            #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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            @gamingonlinux

            FlatHub is starting to remind me of Snap.

            I’ve tried reporting a few issues, but no one ever seems to pay any attention.

            For example, Hüma Browser was discontinued a years ago, and the URL that FlatHub lists as the project’s homepage now redirects to a phishing site.

            I don’t think anyone is monitoring their community forums. My account is still pending approval — Discourse forum software’s classic “you posted too soon after joining” issue.

            #FlatHub #SnapD #Linux #OpenSource

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            • linux@masto.aiL linux@masto.ai

              @gamingonlinux

              FlatHub is starting to remind me of Snap.

              I’ve tried reporting a few issues, but no one ever seems to pay any attention.

              For example, Hüma Browser was discontinued a years ago, and the URL that FlatHub lists as the project’s homepage now redirects to a phishing site.

              I don’t think anyone is monitoring their community forums. My account is still pending approval — Discourse forum software’s classic “you posted too soon after joining” issue.

              #FlatHub #SnapD #Linux #OpenSource

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              @Linux @gamingonlinux banned for being really cool

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              • ciela@mastodon.ieC ciela@mastodon.ie

                @Linux @gamingonlinux banned for being really cool

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                @Ciela @Linux @gamingonlinux "No normal person types that fast. What are they doing? Using all their fingers?"

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                • ciela@mastodon.ieC ciela@mastodon.ie

                  @Linux @gamingonlinux banned for being really cool

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                  @Ciela

                  🤣 That would be too funny.

                  Actually, Discourse, the software, has a built-in setting that automatically flags new accounts. This is designed to prevent spam, but it can become a problem if you don’t have a fairly active staff on the site, since the backlog can grow extensively.

                  I’m not a fan of Discourse. Their approach to spam management often acts more as a deterrent to joining and participating. There are better options out there.

                  @gamingonlinux

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                  • bryanredeagle@beige.partyB bryanredeagle@beige.party

                    @Ciela @Linux @gamingonlinux "No normal person types that fast. What are they doing? Using all their fingers?"

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                    @bryanredeagle

                    🤣

                    That status alone, for this long, suggests they don’t monitor their forum.

                    Discourse, the software, has a built-in setting that automatically flags new accounts. This is designed to prevent spam, but it can become a problem if you don’t have a fairly active staff on the site, since the backlog can grow extensively.

                    I’m not a fan of Discourse. Their approach to spam management often acts more as a deterrent to joining and participating.

                    @Ciela @gamingonlinux

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                    • bryanredeagle@beige.partyB bryanredeagle@beige.party

                      @Ciela @Linux @gamingonlinux "No normal person types that fast. What are they doing? Using all their fingers?"

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                      @bryanredeagle@beige.party @Ciela@mastodon.ie @Linux@masto.ai @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social Discourse (the software forum Flathub uses) offers spam protection. This is one of the things that bot monitors and flags accounts that violates it. It does generate quite a bit of false positives, but usually there is active human moderation to verify those flags. In this case nobody verified it tho… not sure who moderates Flathub Discourse, but reaching out to them on masto could be a solution

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                      • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                        @bryanredeagle@beige.party @Ciela@mastodon.ie @Linux@masto.ai @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social Discourse (the software forum Flathub uses) offers spam protection. This is one of the things that bot monitors and flags accounts that violates it. It does generate quite a bit of false positives, but usually there is active human moderation to verify those flags. In this case nobody verified it tho… not sure who moderates Flathub Discourse, but reaching out to them on masto could be a solution

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                        @tragivictoria

                        Welcome to the conversation. Thanks for participating.

                        We've gone over this

                        Linux Is Best (@Linux@masto.ai)

                        @bryanredeagle@beige.party 🤣 That status alone, for this long, suggests they don’t monitor their forum. Discourse, the software, has a built-in setting that automatically flags new accounts. This is designed to prevent spam, but it can become a problem if you don’t have a fairly active staff on the site, since the backlog can grow extensively. I’m not a fan of Discourse. Their approach to spam management often acts more as a deterrent to joining and participating. @Ciela@mastodon.ie @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

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                        @bryanredeagle @Ciela @gamingonlinux

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                        • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                          Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

                          #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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                          @gamingonlinux #FuckAI

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                            @tragivictoria

                            Welcome to the conversation. Thanks for participating.

                            We've gone over this

                            Linux Is Best (@Linux@masto.ai)

                            @bryanredeagle@beige.party 🤣 That status alone, for this long, suggests they don’t monitor their forum. Discourse, the software, has a built-in setting that automatically flags new accounts. This is designed to prevent spam, but it can become a problem if you don’t have a fairly active staff on the site, since the backlog can grow extensively. I’m not a fan of Discourse. Their approach to spam management often acts more as a deterrent to joining and participating. @Ciela@mastodon.ie @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

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                            @bryanredeagle @Ciela @gamingonlinux

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                            @Linux@masto.ai @bryanredeagle@beige.party @Ciela@mastodon.ie @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social ah, mastodon didn't showed me this reply. Sorry.

                            Although I'm curious, have you tried to report it on github then?

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                            • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                              @Linux@masto.ai @bryanredeagle@beige.party @Ciela@mastodon.ie @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social ah, mastodon didn't showed me this reply. Sorry.

                              Although I'm curious, have you tried to report it on github then?

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                              @tragivictoria

                              I do not use Microsoft products or services, which means, I do not have any interest in joining their AI infested site, GitHub.

                              @bryanredeagle @Ciela @gamingonlinux

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                              • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                                Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

                                #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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                                @gamingonlinux good, now ban the X11 and unverified apps too.

                                I got insulted and banned from their Matrix server when I talked about those issues.

                                Fuck them too, ignorant assholes.

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                                • fedihacker@masto.esF fedihacker@masto.es

                                  @gamingonlinux Yeah, copyright infringement is inevitable.

                                  I'm of the opinion that if the generated AI code looks no different than from human code then it didn't save you anything. And if the code was trivial enough for an LLM it probably could be covered with a template snippet from your crafted collection of templates.

                                  And there's research showing no productivity improvement at all, even negative.

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                                  @Fedihacker @gamingonlinux the major counterpoint I have to that is that computers are generally better than humans at processing large volumes of text quickly and precisely: much like John Henry vs the steam drill, the machine is just going to be better at rote uncreative tasks like searching correlating checking and translating across a big project. (I speak of tool-using LLMs with shell/file access here, not pure hallucinatory LLMs)

                                  Of course, steam drills should probably not make decisions

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                                  • wilbr@glitch.socialW wilbr@glitch.social

                                    @Fedihacker @gamingonlinux the major counterpoint I have to that is that computers are generally better than humans at processing large volumes of text quickly and precisely: much like John Henry vs the steam drill, the machine is just going to be better at rote uncreative tasks like searching correlating checking and translating across a big project. (I speak of tool-using LLMs with shell/file access here, not pure hallucinatory LLMs)

                                    Of course, steam drills should probably not make decisions

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                                    @wilbr @gamingonlinux Process text to do what exactly? Computers are good calculators. You can do calculations to check if a point in euclidean space is bounded within a known volume. Or do calculations to obtain the probability of something happening.

                                    Statistics have a margin of error. Errors can be compounded. A concatenation of trivial snippets based on the probability of them forming a sequence is error compounding, propagation of uncertainty. You end up with a pile of crap. The only thing you can do to mitigate that is using an enormous number of samples to lower the error up to a limit. That's inefficient.

                                    But LLMs are even worse, because they work at token level. Error propagation is greater, so you need even more samples to keep gibberish from happening too often.

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                                    • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                                      Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

                                      #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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                                      @gamingonlinux I uninstalled flatpak in anticipation that Artix might stop supporting it if it really starts forcing systemd, if their dropping GNOME for that reason is any indication of flatpak's future on that distro.
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                                      • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                                        Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/05/flathub-moves-to-ban-nearly-all-apps-and-submissions-made-with-generative-ai/

                                        #Linux #OpenSource #Flathub #AI #GenAI

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                                        @gamingonlinux that is... Good.

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