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The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you.

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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!

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    Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)

    Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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    @mhoye Same reason they want you to download their fuckass apps for your phone, too.

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!

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      Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)

      Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

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      @mhoye plus you can package a lot more intrusive shit alongside Electron, let's say address book extraction 😕

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!

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        Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)

        Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

        favicon

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        @mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".

        prsxfeng@mas.toP vintageveloce@techhub.socialV yuman@defcon.socialY fred@social.fthevenet.euF 4 Replies Last reply
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        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

          The only difference is that electron wrapper is a browser that works for them, not for you. Tracking protection, adblockers, none of that in here for you!

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          Pavel A. Samsonov (@PavelASamsonov@mastodon.social)

          Attached: 1 image Love how every website now has a popup that tells you "our website is hot dogshit, download the app instead" And then the app is just an Electron wrapper around the same JS they could have put on the website if they didn't hate you personally

          favicon

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          @mhoye Often wonder if I’m the only user who gets their email from the mobile web. Boy does the platform hate it. I don’t know what is forcing them to keep allowing it instead of simply forcing people to use their app if they ever want to see their data again, but there must be something, bc I KNOW they’re not maintaining this version voluntarily.

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            @mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".

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            @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

            There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

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            Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

            Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

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            (www.ad-shield.io)

            jwz@mastodon.socialJ R groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG prsxfeng@mas.toP ams@infosec.exchangeA 6 Replies Last reply
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            • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

              @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

              There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

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              Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

              Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

              favicon

              (www.ad-shield.io)

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              @PRSXFENG @mhoye @pluralistic Default Reader Mode FTW https://jwz.org/b/yk21

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                @PRSXFENG @mhoye @pluralistic Default Reader Mode FTW https://jwz.org/b/yk21

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                @jwz @PRSXFENG @mhoye I use "Kill sticky" instead of "hide distracting" but same thing:

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                GitHub - t-mart/kill-sticky: Bookmarklet to remove sticky elements and restore scrolling to web pages!

                Bookmarklet to remove sticky elements and restore scrolling to web pages! - t-mart/kill-sticky

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                (also works for pesky toolbars and any other element whose CSS is set to "stick" when the user scrolls)

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  @mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".

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                  @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic
                  Never use an app when the webpage will do.

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                  • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                    @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                    There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

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                    Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

                    Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

                    favicon

                    (www.ad-shield.io)

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                    @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic "Publishers are increasingly focused on building owned audiences."

                    Shhhh, you're not supposed to say that part out loud.

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                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                      @mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".

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                      @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic I know at least one of y'all hates the A-word, but my lineageOS with adaway commits them felonies daily, with zero ads in any apps

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                      • R robinadams@mathstodon.xyz

                        @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic "Publishers are increasingly focused on building owned audiences."

                        Shhhh, you're not supposed to say that part out loud.

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                        @robinadams @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                        they say some wild stuff, check out other blog posts
                        https://www.ad-shield.io/blog/will-restoring-ads-for-dark-traffic-harm-user-experience

                        "Recover where there is clear user tolerance. IT-level environments, bundled solutions, default opt-ins — audiences where blocking was never an explicit user choice."

                        yeah right, the IT Manager made the decision, and you overrode it with some wild justifications

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                        • sakhavi@aoir.socialS sakhavi@aoir.social

                          @mhoye Often wonder if I’m the only user who gets their email from the mobile web. Boy does the platform hate it. I don’t know what is forcing them to keep allowing it instead of simply forcing people to use their app if they ever want to see their data again, but there must be something, bc I KNOW they’re not maintaining this version voluntarily.

                          davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @sakhavi @mhoye [huge banner] GO USE THE APP

                          .

                          .

                          .

                          [tiny link to the fuckin web page]

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                          • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                            @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                            There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

                            Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

                            favicon

                            (www.ad-shield.io)

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                            @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic i just used their "free consultation" form to request a consultation on meatspin dot com. hope they enjoy that

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                            • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                              @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic i just used their "free consultation" form to request a consultation on meatspin dot com. hope they enjoy that

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                              @PRSXFENG @mhoye @pluralistic ...ew jwz is in this thread

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                @mhoye I like @pluralistic's line, "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a felony to block ads in it".

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                                @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

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                                • groupnebula563@mastodon.socialG groupnebula563@mastodon.social

                                  @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic i just used their "free consultation" form to request a consultation on meatspin dot com. hope they enjoy that

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                                  @GroupNebula563

                                  you should view source on that webpage, the data validation is entirely vibe coded lol

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                                  • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                                    @robinadams @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                                    they say some wild stuff, check out other blog posts
                                    https://www.ad-shield.io/blog/will-restoring-ads-for-dark-traffic-harm-user-experience

                                    "Recover where there is clear user tolerance. IT-level environments, bundled solutions, default opt-ins — audiences where blocking was never an explicit user choice."

                                    yeah right, the IT Manager made the decision, and you overrode it with some wild justifications

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                                    @pluralistic

                                    Oh by the way, these guys holds some patents

                                    US-12438933-B2

                                    "Method and device for providing advertisement by counteracting on violent advertisement blocking function "

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                                    • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                                      @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                                      There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

                                      Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

                                      favicon

                                      (www.ad-shield.io)

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                                      Oh by the way.

                                      In case you weren't aware

                                      they're the folks behind html-load[.]com and report.error-report[.]com

                                      You've probably seen them around

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                                      • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                                        @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                                        There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

                                        Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

                                        favicon

                                        (www.ad-shield.io)

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                                        @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic Wow that's dark.

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                                        • prsxfeng@mas.toP prsxfeng@mas.to

                                          @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                                          There is also a very pesky anti adblocker on the web that is coming for mobile.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Ad-Shield Now Restores In-App Ads For Adblocking Traffic - Ad-Shield

                                          Ad-Shield launches in-app ad recovery for adblocking traffic. Android beta live, iOS coming soon — restore lost revenue from VPN and network-level dark traffic.

                                          favicon

                                          (www.ad-shield.io)

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                                          @PRSXFENG @jwz @mhoye @pluralistic

                                          What the HELL are they smoking?

                                          Your users will welcome you trying to defeat their attempts to defeat your ads. ?

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