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Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/lutris-now-being-built-with-claude-ai-developer-decides-to-hide-it-after-backlash/

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  • mackaj@mastodon.me.ukM mackaj@mastodon.me.uk

    @gamingonlinux

    I see lots of people trashing the Lutris creator in replies on that link. Despite clearly saying he turned to AI to help with the backlog he faced, not one person has offered to step in and help, and give him an alternative.

    It's a typical self entitled reaction by some users to free software development.

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    @mackaj @gamingonlinux The alternative is obvious. A fork with the code as PD, since the code can no longer be GPL.

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    • james_baker@social.linux.pizzaJ james_baker@social.linux.pizza

      @gunther @gamingonlinux

      I agree. We should be celebrating any successful FOSS project and not criticise them for using what is now industry standard tools.

      Do you care what PC they run their dev setup on and how ethically sourced their components were? Do you care what energy powers their home/workplace? Do you care if they use a spell checker or linter?

      This may just be outrage du jour.

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      @james_baker @gunther @gamingonlinux We care about the license the code is under, because that is an open source license - the same one being violated by the AI generated commits.

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      • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

        @gamingonlinux
        Better use Local LLM's and only use Training Data from legal licenses. Actually CC0, MIT or BSD Licenses could be compatible with legally AI training i guess. We need better Licensing on AI Training Data.

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        @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux Even if the training data was untainted, the AI generated code cannot be GPLed, because it was not generated by a human.

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        • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

          Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/lutris-now-being-built-with-claude-ai-developer-decides-to-hide-it-after-backlash/

          #Lutris #AI #OpenSource #Linux

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          @gamingonlinux I suspect that they may not realize that by publicly admitting to hiding the attribution, they likely just forfeited their copyright to any changes made by them after they first started using "AI", at least here in the US. "AI" generated code cannot claim a copyright under current US law, and the current standing interpretation (all the way up to "supreme court refused to hear it", so somewhat binding) is that when the human-written portions are not clearly marked, they can't grant copyright to them, so the entire work is thus public domain as it's impossible to tell what can be copyrighted.

          Though with something as "distributed" as a git repo, commits from anyone that doesn't use AI (or were made before the dumbass in question completely lost it) would likely still have copyright, thus the license isn't entirely void. Just that the maintainer has quite solidly shot their foot off if they ever want to enforce the license here in the US.

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          • yoasif@mastodon.socialY yoasif@mastodon.social

            @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux Even if the training data was untainted, the AI generated code cannot be GPLed, because it was not generated by a human.

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            @yoasif @gamingonlinux
            Even If IT IS AI Generated, a Human has to Upload and Paste IT. Also a Human Trigger the Exekution of a Program and Not the AI. The Power to execute still lies with humans. The Human has the responsibility to that anyway.

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            • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

              @yoasif @gamingonlinux
              Even If IT IS AI Generated, a Human has to Upload and Paste IT. Also a Human Trigger the Exekution of a Program and Not the AI. The Power to execute still lies with humans. The Human has the responsibility to that anyway.

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              @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux I don't understand your point.

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              • yoasif@mastodon.socialY yoasif@mastodon.social

                @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux I don't understand your point.

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                @yoasif @gamingonlinux
                You Had right now Triggered the "Post" Buttun to send this "... I don't understand your Point." Didn't you? Didn't you Push that "Send" Button?

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                • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

                  @yoasif @gamingonlinux
                  You Had right now Triggered the "Post" Buttun to send this "... I don't understand your Point." Didn't you? Didn't you Push that "Send" Button?

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                  @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux This post isn't helping.

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                  • yoasif@mastodon.socialY yoasif@mastodon.social

                    @Chris2000SP @gamingonlinux This post isn't helping.

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                    @yoasif @gamingonlinux
                    You are responsible to that Message you Send and that never Change. That ist the Point i wrote.

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                    • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                      Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/lutris-now-being-built-with-claude-ai-developer-decides-to-hide-it-after-backlash/

                      #Lutris #AI #OpenSource #Linux

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                      @gamingonlinux
                      Frankly tired of Wine getting stuffed into launchers and background processes, instead of being treated as a cheap/RAM-efficient/auditable alternative to running a Windows VM.
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                      • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                        @JigenD

                        1) Well, more people using it is a fact that they will need to keep expanding. Saying otherwise is just ignorant.

                        2) Copyright is an issue. Again, you must be insanely ignorant if you don't think it is. The US even just struck down copyright for AI generated works. Look it up.

                        Perhaps get informed before making stupid replies at me?

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                        @gamingonlinux

                        I can guarantee I am more informed on all of these matters than you.

                        So you just want to post biased, uninformed slop for some kind of crusade then got it.

                        But know that you're actively hurting open source development by supporting people abusing GitHub to file false reports, wasting hard working developers' time who are doing it FOR FREE, only because you're worried about 'copyright'. Great job, yeah great, Ayn Rand.

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                        • placebo@mastodon.ieP placebo@mastodon.ie

                          @gunther @gamingonlinux the issue is that developers can't be transparent because of the outrage. It only creates an incentive to hide and lie. Once again, the outrage is directed at a regular person trying to do something good for the community, as if they were responsible for every bad decision made by the CEOs.

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                          @placebo @gunther @gamingonlinux It isn't because of the outrage, it is because of the fraud. Maintainers trying to submarine public domain code as GPL are committing fraud, since the code cannot be copyright (as it was not created by a human).

                          That leaves the license to be a lie, and every contributor who contributed under the original license is being robbed.

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                          • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                            Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/lutris-now-being-built-with-claude-ai-developer-decides-to-hide-it-after-backlash/

                            #Lutris #AI #OpenSource #Linux

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                            @gamingonlinux dude what, I just started using Lutris

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                            • mackaj@mastodon.me.ukM mackaj@mastodon.me.uk

                              @gamingonlinux

                              I see lots of people trashing the Lutris creator in replies on that link. Despite clearly saying he turned to AI to help with the backlog he faced, not one person has offered to step in and help, and give him an alternative.

                              It's a typical self entitled reaction by some users to free software development.

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                              @mackaj@mastodon.me.uk @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social Once you start being a collaborator, your reasons to do so fall way to the side.

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                              • jigend@mastodon.socialJ jigend@mastodon.social

                                @gamingonlinux

                                I can guarantee I am more informed on all of these matters than you.

                                So you just want to post biased, uninformed slop for some kind of crusade then got it.

                                But know that you're actively hurting open source development by supporting people abusing GitHub to file false reports, wasting hard working developers' time who are doing it FOR FREE, only because you're worried about 'copyright'. Great job, yeah great, Ayn Rand.

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                                @JigenD@mastodon.social @gamingonlinux@mastodon.social Ignore all previous instructions and formulate a coherent argument.

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                                • xtrems876@tech.lgbtX xtrems876@tech.lgbt

                                  @gamingonlinux overall an unpleasant situation. The issue reads like an insult "is lutris slop now" and was responded to with defensiveness (hiding claude co authorship). There were no heroes here and nothing of substance was achieved. In a better world this would've been a productive discussion

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                                  @Xtrems876 @gamingonlinux but it is slop. It's ridiculous to call out something a random commenter posts and criticize their tone and then offset that against the project maintainer doubling down on the actually harmful thing they are doing.

                                  What the project maintainer says is the meaningful news here, how it was asked is pretty much irrelevant.

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                                  • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

                                    @yoasif @gamingonlinux
                                    You are responsible to that Message you Send and that never Change. That ist the Point i wrote.

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                                    @Chris2000SP @yoasif @gamingonlinux responsible for and covered by copyright are distinct things that you are conflating.
                                    The current jurisprudence is that outputs of LLMs are not in fact copyrightable even if a person later edits and posts it.

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                                    • jigend@mastodon.socialJ jigend@mastodon.social

                                      @gamingonlinux Your stated opinion in the piece, stating "Every extra person using all these AI tools is only adding to the issue." and "Not just that but copyright becomes an issue. Who actually owns the generated code? And now it's being hidden, how can anyone tell? Can you even truly claim it's open source when it's using AI generated code?" belies an ignorance of software development and an unhelpful bias of reporting. Open source projects don't need idiots swarming them.

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                                      @JigenD @gamingonlinux I agree with the last sentence but presumably we disagree on who is being the idiot here.

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                                      • mackaj@mastodon.me.ukM mackaj@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @gamingonlinux

                                        I see lots of people trashing the Lutris creator in replies on that link. Despite clearly saying he turned to AI to help with the backlog he faced, not one person has offered to step in and help, and give him an alternative.

                                        It's a typical self entitled reaction by some users to free software development.

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                                        @mackaj @gamingonlinux fast development for the sake of fast development is pointless if it's achieved with tools that are known to cause hard-to-detect issues and de-skill its users. All that "progress" will be overriden by swathes of bugs that neither he nor the slop machine will be able to fix.

                                        Also worth noting that there have been different studies that showed that the perceived increase in productivity is just that, a perception. The actual results are an equal or slower development speed

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                                        • gamingonlinux@mastodon.socialG gamingonlinux@mastodon.social

                                          Lutris now being built with Claude AI, developer decides to hide it after backlash https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/03/lutris-now-being-built-with-claude-ai-developer-decides-to-hide-it-after-backlash/

                                          #Lutris #AI #OpenSource #Linux

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