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  3. so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

    Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

    It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

    So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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    @foone usb device on computer A that emulates a ps/2 keyboard for computer B, stream keystrokes to it to type all the files into a hex editor

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    • emily@fedi.uni.horseE emily@fedi.uni.horse

      @foone usb device on computer A that emulates a ps/2 keyboard for computer B, stream keystrokes to it to type all the files into a hex editor

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      @emily I have honestly considered it

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        I'll have to switch to one of my many other USB floppy drives.

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        SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!

          foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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          so if you get delayed providing the requested Disk 2 of DOS 6.22 because your USB drive died, and it has to wait for over 5 minutes... the drive will spin down and not come back up.

          so the installer will read the files off the drive and then completely fail to write them to the disk! and you have to start over again!

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!

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            @foone that sounds awful!

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              so if you get delayed providing the requested Disk 2 of DOS 6.22 because your USB drive died, and it has to wait for over 5 minutes... the drive will spin down and not come back up.

              so the installer will read the files off the drive and then completely fail to write them to the disk! and you have to start over again!

              foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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              I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

                foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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                COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                28 year old laptops even moreso

                tsia_@chaos.socialT fox_rainbow_@mastodon.socialF foone@digipres.clubF 3 Replies Last reply
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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                  Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                  It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                  So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

                  kw217@mathstodon.xyzK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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                  • kw217@mathstodon.xyzK kw217@mathstodon.xyz

                    @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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                    @foone CDROMs were a *massive* advance for software installation

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                      28 year old laptops even moreso

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                      @foone i read this post before the rest of the thread and was worried about your sanity for a second

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                      • kw217@mathstodon.xyzK kw217@mathstodon.xyz

                        @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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                        @kw217 I have been looking for a copy of that office installer, I'd love to do it, maybe on video?

                        I'm just annoyed with doing lots of disks because this laptop has a very slow floppy drive

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!

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                          @foone This machine: "Look what Claude has to do to achieve even a fraction of our power."

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                            28 year old laptops even moreso

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                            @foone Kinda sounds like a 2 cups of coffee job

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                              Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                              It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                              So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                              @foone have I got the product for you!

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

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                                @foone I wonder if you could replace the CMOS with a pin-compatible flash memory chip. Unless it's one of those all-in-one things that have a built-in RTC.

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                                • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                                  @foone I wonder if you could replace the CMOS with a pin-compatible flash memory chip. Unless it's one of those all-in-one things that have a built-in RTC.

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                                  @StarkRG @foone

                                  You could build a "hat" even if it's not pin compatible.

                                  Logic would be the biggest showstopper

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                                  • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                                    @StarkRG @foone

                                    You could build a "hat" even if it's not pin compatible.

                                    Logic would be the biggest showstopper

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                                    @n_dimension @foone Well, it's a laptop, so I'd argue that space is the biggest showstopper. That said, a teeny daughter board the size of the existing chip could work. Building it, though, is probably more effort than it's worth. Swapping a chip is one thing, designing a bespoke board and then populating it with rice-sized components is something else.

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                                      Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                                      It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                                      So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                                      @foone Cursed idea: one of those adapters for the cassette player in '80s/'90s cars with them, except for a floppy drive.

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                                        28 year old laptops even moreso

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                                        I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                                        and then the hard drive failed

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                          well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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                                          @foone win98 quick install (the Linux based installer for Windows 98) has a boot floppy (containing a smol Linux kernel) for systems that cannot boot from CD or USB. I wonder if that could work.

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