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  3. so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    so if you get delayed providing the requested Disk 2 of DOS 6.22 because your USB drive died, and it has to wait for over 5 minutes... the drive will spin down and not come back up.

    so the installer will read the files off the drive and then completely fail to write them to the disk! and you have to start over again!

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    I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

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      COMPUTERS ARE FUN
      28 year old laptops even moreso

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

        Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

        It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

        So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

        kw217@mathstodon.xyzK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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        • kw217@mathstodon.xyzK kw217@mathstodon.xyz

          @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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          @foone CDROMs were a *massive* advance for software installation

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            COMPUTERS ARE FUN
            28 year old laptops even moreso

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            @foone i read this post before the rest of the thread and was worried about your sanity for a second

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            • kw217@mathstodon.xyzK kw217@mathstodon.xyz

              @foone only ten disks? Tell me you've never installed Microsoft Office from floppies without telling me, etc 🙂

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              @kw217 I have been looking for a copy of that office installer, I'd love to do it, maybe on video?

              I'm just annoyed with doing lots of disks because this laptop has a very slow floppy drive

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              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                SO FUN FACT: if you let this machine spin down the hard drive (which it'll do as soon as there's 5 minutes of no activity), it can't spin it back up!

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                @foone This machine: "Look what Claude has to do to achieve even a fraction of our power."

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                  28 year old laptops even moreso

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                  @foone Kinda sounds like a 2 cups of coffee job

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                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                    so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                    Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                    It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                    So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                    @foone have I got the product for you!

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                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                      I fixed this setting in the BIOS but the CMOS battery is dead which means if you leave it powered off for more than like 30 seconds, it resets all the values and turns it back on for you

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                      @foone I wonder if you could replace the CMOS with a pin-compatible flash memory chip. Unless it's one of those all-in-one things that have a built-in RTC.

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                      • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                        @foone I wonder if you could replace the CMOS with a pin-compatible flash memory chip. Unless it's one of those all-in-one things that have a built-in RTC.

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                        @StarkRG @foone

                        You could build a "hat" even if it's not pin compatible.

                        Logic would be the biggest showstopper

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                        • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                          @StarkRG @foone

                          You could build a "hat" even if it's not pin compatible.

                          Logic would be the biggest showstopper

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                          @n_dimension @foone Well, it's a laptop, so I'd argue that space is the biggest showstopper. That said, a teeny daughter board the size of the existing chip could work. Building it, though, is probably more effort than it's worth. Swapping a chip is one thing, designing a bespoke board and then populating it with rice-sized components is something else.

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                            Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                            It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                            So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                            @foone Cursed idea: one of those adapters for the cassette player in '80s/'90s cars with them, except for a floppy drive.

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              COMPUTERS ARE FUN
                              28 year old laptops even moreso

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                              I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                              and then the hard drive failed

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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                                @foone win98 quick install (the Linux based installer for Windows 98) has a boot floppy (containing a smol Linux kernel) for systems that cannot boot from CD or USB. I wonder if that could work.

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                                  and then the hard drive failed

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                                  @foone Ahh, the genuine 1980s DOS experience then?

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                                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                    I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                                    and then the hard drive failed

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                                    I think I have a CF to 44pin IDE adapter somewhere

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                                      and then the hard drive failed

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                                      @foone Failed how? If it's not spinning the platters, it could be that the lubrication has degraded over time, but if you can manually rotate the spindle a few times you might be able to breathe new life into it. Though probably not a lot of life, and you'd want to keep it spinning for a while to let the bad lube work its way out.

                                      Bad lube.

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        so if you get delayed providing the requested Disk 2 of DOS 6.22 because your USB drive died, and it has to wait for over 5 minutes... the drive will spin down and not come back up.

                                        so the installer will read the files off the drive and then completely fail to write them to the disk! and you have to start over again!

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                                        @foone oh noes

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          I finally finished installing DOS 6.22 onto it

                                          and then the hard drive failed

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                                          @foone It's cursed.

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