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  3. Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

Four years ago I asked whether "Google Pass" was a thing that I needed to give a shit about and consensus was, "no, nobody uses that."

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    @talexb Did you try opening the file? Did that do anything?

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    @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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    • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

      @jwz damn so Google is the only correct one. well good to know I can't rely on any of the foss apps!

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      @tibi2 I mean I guess it's NBD if a ticket displays the wrong time, right?

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      • mu@mastodon.nzM mu@mastodon.nz

        @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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        @mu Cool story very helpful

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

          And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

          UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

          (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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          @jwz sort of does. It sends me to a scary page asking permission to apply AI to my pictures, and I'm conflicted whether to say yes so I can tell you what happens next or say no because I don't want Google to start applying AI to all my files (as if they didn't already, though, permission or not)

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            @DamonHD Did you try opening the file? Did that do anything?

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            @jwz not visibly. Obvs you may now have all my secrets or something.

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            • damonhd@mastodon.socialD damonhd@mastodon.social

              @jwz not visibly. Obvs you may now have all my secrets or something.

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              @DamonHD You know what you did

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              • mu@mastodon.nzM mu@mastodon.nz

                @jwz @talexb I didn't try opening the random-looking download. Too many years thinking about cybersecurity.

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                @mu @jwz This.

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                • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                  @jwz

                  A story in 4 pics. This was as far as I was willing to go without knowing exactly what that file does. (And I only downloaded it because you have earned that trust.)

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                  @jwz

                  To clarify, I don't think the file does anything harmful, but I don't know if I want whatever it actually does.

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                  • talexb@fosstodon.orgT talexb@fosstodon.org

                    @mu @jwz This.

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                    @talexb @mu You know, when someone asks their followers to test something, and you would prefer not to, simply remaining silent is always an option that is available to you.

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                    • rebe_gc@beach.cityR rebe_gc@beach.city

                      @jwz sort of does. It sends me to a scary page asking permission to apply AI to my pictures, and I'm conflicted whether to say yes so I can tell you what happens next or say no because I don't want Google to start applying AI to all my files (as if they didn't already, though, permission or not)

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                      @jwz hah. So, after following the replies from others here I can also confirm: Hitting "not thanks" on the "please give AI permission for everything" screen lets the flow continue on to add the pass. Apparently now me and one other can go on April 26 at 3 am to your club and watch Powerman 5000! 🎉

                      This is all on a Pixel8, Android 16, Google Play System Update Nov 1, 2025, Android Security Update March 5, 2026

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                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                        @talexb @mu You know, when someone asks their followers to test something, and you would prefer not to, simply remaining silent is always an option that is available to you.

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                        @jwz @mu The nerd factor on @jwz's website is quite high, and I was at lunch on a Sunday .. why not.

                        But you're right, normally, no.

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          @tibi2 I mean I guess it's NBD if a ticket displays the wrong time, right?

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                          @jwz foss wallet has a closed issue about time zones 🙂 May I use your test file if needed to reopen that issue?

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                          • tibi2@mstdn.socialT tibi2@mstdn.social

                            @jwz foss wallet has a closed issue about time zones 🙂 May I use your test file if needed to reopen that issue?

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                            @tibi2 Sure

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              @DamonHD You know what you did

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                              @jwz maybe, though the best bits involve indistinct memories. I still have a paid-for Netscape CD somewhere, but don't tell anyone...

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                              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                @jwz I didn't see any replies that observed whether this kind of ticket should be a private pass in the first place, as that seems to be more about PII? See https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/13026633?sjid=6403602199517994500-NC

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                                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                  If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                  And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                  UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                  (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

                                  helge@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @jwz Android 15, downloaded a pkpass, the phone didn't let me open it or guide me to open it.

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    If those of you using Android could click on this link and tell me whether it does anything even remotely useful, and if so, some detail about how horrible/stupid the whole experience is, that would be helpful: https://www.jwz.org/images/2026/test.pkpass

                                    And tell me what version you're using, obviously. Possibly this requires some "Play" [sic] stuff to work.

                                    UPDATE: Thanks! You can stop now.

                                    (Unless you have read the dozens of replies and have had a materially different experience than those.)

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                                    If someone has an explanation for who gets "Unsupported file type" and who gets "Download / Open / Pick wallet app", that would be nice. I assume it has something to do with "Play" [sic] having its claws in?

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                                    • helge@mas.toH helge@mas.to

                                      @jwz Android 15, downloaded a pkpass, the phone didn't let me open it or guide me to open it.

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                                      @jwz That was the end of the road on the "no braining just clicking the buttons" experience.

                                      Trying to open Google Wallet to import: It didn't have any way to import files from the app itself.

                                      Trying to open Files/Downloads and opening it again, and now it prompted me to add it to Google Wallet. From there, imported fine similarly to others' report.

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                                      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                        If someone has an explanation for who gets "Unsupported file type" and who gets "Download / Open / Pick wallet app", that would be nice. I assume it has something to do with "Play" [sic] having its claws in?

                                        helge@mas.toH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jwz As far as I can tell, I get "pick wallet" if I have recently opened Google Wallet. If not, I get "unsupported file".

                                        I have and use GW regularly, even for buying groceries yesterday, so it does not appear to be a "first time" problem.

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                                        • helge@mas.toH helge@mas.to

                                          @jwz As far as I can tell, I get "pick wallet" if I have recently opened Google Wallet. If not, I get "unsupported file".

                                          I have and use GW regularly, even for buying groceries yesterday, so it does not appear to be a "first time" problem.

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                                          @helge Well that sure is weird...

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