I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy many such cases
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy That is because women had comprehensive rights in Islam 1400 years ago including property ownership, inheritance and marriage consent. European women didn't get these same rights until the 19th and 20th century. Islam influenced Liberalism. Only in 20th century Europe overtakes Islam and grants more rights to women, which is how we get to today, where the narrative is non Muslim women have more rights, but not long ago, in the recent past, the opposite was true.
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy There's a fine line between poetry and rant, it seems.
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
It's ironic given the poem that her actual name is missing and she listed in terms of the men in her life. "Umm Ja'afar" meaning "Ja'afar's mother" and "bint Ali" meaning "Ali's daughter"
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It's ironic given the poem that her actual name is missing and she listed in terms of the men in her life. "Umm Ja'afar" meaning "Ja'afar's mother" and "bint Ali" meaning "Ali's daughter"
@gbargoud yeah I noticed that too
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And people claim carpet bombing was invented in WWII.
@contrasocial @TarkabarkaHolgy
but they haven't used it nearly enough on the 'isms"
...really carpet bombing patriarchy into oblivion would make the world much better, instantaneously. Then everyone, men, women, others could be, ya know, normal humans instead of status monkey fools.
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
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Okay, here's another one:
"A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:
- Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
niche.
So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."These women were savage
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy Sooo.... a man of faith CAN own her? Very sus.
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy can i get book name or URL where i can read it? it will be very good for me. TIA
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy мне нравится
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy absolutely love it
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@TarkabarkaHolgy can i get book name or URL where i can read it? it will be very good for me. TIA
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
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Okay, here's another one:
"A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:
- Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
niche.
So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."These women were savage
@TarkabarkaHolgy ::runs scanner over poem::
"Captain... the savagery... it's off scale"
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Okay, here's another one:
"A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:
- Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
niche.
So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."These women were savage
@TarkabarkaHolgy if someone told me that I'd be like:
"Ouch. But hey, respect, thats poetic."
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@TarkabarkaHolgy @nixCraft ftr it's been available, at least US side, for a while, now (2001?). You can get it at places other than Big River, but even Barnes n Noble or BAM should stock it.
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I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:
"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."
(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)
That's it. That's the whole poem.
#poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon
@TarkabarkaHolgy I'd love to hear the untranslated version of that and work it into music TBH.
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@TarkabarkaHolgy That is because women had comprehensive rights in Islam 1400 years ago including property ownership, inheritance and marriage consent. European women didn't get these same rights until the 19th and 20th century. Islam influenced Liberalism. Only in 20th century Europe overtakes Islam and grants more rights to women, which is how we get to today, where the narrative is non Muslim women have more rights, but not long ago, in the recent past, the opposite was true.
@Rastal @TarkabarkaHolgy Men are insecure and need to control everything. Early Christianity and Buddhism also set women as equals. It just gets written out again and again.
Also why the whole Jesus myth bugs me. Instead of knocking up a 12yr old so God could ageplay for a few years doesn't make me believe. If God had incarnated as a woman that men listened to, that might have convinced me, but instead he pandered to the patriarchy and does in every faith.
