<![CDATA[I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:]]>I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

"Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

(by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

That's it. That's the whole poem.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116537115533773632https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116537115533773632Fri, 08 May 2026 04:41:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 22:37:24 GMT]]>@noctuaminervae @notyourfanboy @TarkabarkaHolgy I suspect it's a good translation choice because I immediately knew which kind of That Guy she's referring to.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/ap/users/116474413277372201/statuses/116535685557817414https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/ap/users/116474413277372201/statuses/116535685557817414Thu, 07 May 2026 22:37:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 22:12:23 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy Who would print or write that in nice arabic calligraphy? For a fee, of course.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.heise.de/users/newstik/statuses/116535587199032908https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.heise.de/users/newstik/statuses/116535587199032908Thu, 07 May 2026 22:12:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 21:40:16 GMT]]>@notyourfanboy @TarkabarkaHolgy Me too. I make “mindless twit” out to be the translation of three words meaning something like weak, foolish, and stubborn. “Twit” sounds like a great choice.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.si/users/noctuaminervae/statuses/116535460928337446https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.si/users/noctuaminervae/statuses/116535460928337446Thu, 07 May 2026 21:40:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 21:16:07 GMT]]>@Sibshops @TarkabarkaHolgy

She doesn’t say so; it might be a necessary but not sufficient condition. 🙂 And being a ‘man of the world’ appears to be just as good a qualification.

At a wild guess,* the poet may simply be playing with the common juxtaposition of /dīn/ (faith, religion) and /dunyā/ (world), similar-sounding words with contrasting meanings.

(* — My daughter has the book, so I’ve checked that these are the words used, but I’m not an Arabist.)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.si/users/noctuaminervae/statuses/116535365955892688https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://toot.si/users/noctuaminervae/statuses/116535365955892688Thu, 07 May 2026 21:16:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 20:17:36 GMT]]>@samuel tänkte på dig här!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/MaryTheKnife/statuses/116535135879548732https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/MaryTheKnife/statuses/116535135879548732Thu, 07 May 2026 20:17:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 20:15:00 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy

y'all I'm really sorry but there has been something making me incredibly tense because NO ONE acknowledges it. A true, real life elephant in the wild!

I'm getting really bint out of shape over the accidental, REALLY unfortunate homophone(?) with some English slang

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/TeflonTrout/statuses/116535125659280921https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://beige.party/users/TeflonTrout/statuses/116535125659280921Thu, 07 May 2026 20:15:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 20:12:08 GMT]]>@gbargoud @TarkabarkaHolgy So THAT is where the pejorative "bint", the British-English slang word for a woman or girl came from.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bint

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/the_wub/statuses/116535114389598779https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/the_wub/statuses/116535114389598779Thu, 07 May 2026 20:12:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 19:58:18 GMT]]>@markwyner
https://saqibooks.com/books/saqi/classical-poems-by-arab-women/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116535059948998546https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116535059948998546Thu, 07 May 2026 19:58:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 19:27:08 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy that poem is fire. What’s the book? I’d love to add it to my list.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/markwyner/statuses/116534937407963360https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/markwyner/statuses/116534937407963360Thu, 07 May 2026 19:27:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 18:39:41 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy 1000 years later, still no notes.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116504175782019610/statuses/116534750844525436https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/116504175782019610/statuses/116534750844525436Thu, 07 May 2026 18:39:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 18:31:46 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jqheywood/statuses/116534719705301600https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jqheywood/statuses/116534719705301600Thu, 07 May 2026 18:31:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 18:17:09 GMT]]>@Fischblog
poetant? rantry?
@TarkabarkaHolgy

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ruhr.social/users/Lamal/statuses/116534662231249575https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ruhr.social/users/Lamal/statuses/116534662231249575Thu, 07 May 2026 18:17:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 17:51:49 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy I need to frame this and give it to my tween daughter. As inspiration, to be clear; I’m pretty sure she has the sentiment down, but maybe she can use tips on how to express it eloquently.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/riotnrrd/statuses/116534562596351609https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/riotnrrd/statuses/116534562596351609Thu, 07 May 2026 17:51:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 17:41:31 GMT]]>@obscurestar well good news, the book is bilingual 🙂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116534522100353708https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116534522100353708Thu, 07 May 2026 17:41:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 17:36:27 GMT]]>@Rastal @TarkabarkaHolgy Men are insecure and need to control everything. Early Christianity and Buddhism also set women as equals. It just gets written out again and again.

Also why the whole Jesus myth bugs me. Instead of knocking up a 12yr old so God could ageplay for a few years doesn't make me believe. If God had incarnated as a woman that men listened to, that might have convinced me, but instead he pandered to the patriarchy and does in every faith.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/obscurestar/statuses/116534502178404862https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/obscurestar/statuses/116534502178404862Thu, 07 May 2026 17:36:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 17:13:35 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy I'd love to hear the untranslated version of that and work it into music TBH.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/obscurestar/statuses/116534412296969225https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/obscurestar/statuses/116534412296969225Thu, 07 May 2026 17:13:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 17:00:42 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy @nixCraft ftr it's been available, at least US side, for a while, now (2001?). You can get it at places other than Big River, but even Barnes n Noble or BAM should stock it.

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/faraiwe/statuses/116534361626150505https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/faraiwe/statuses/116534361626150505Thu, 07 May 2026 17:00:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 16:55:03 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy if someone told me that I'd be like:

"Ouch. But hey, respect, thats poetic."

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://zeroes.ca/users/FknHannu/statuses/116534339375579760https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://zeroes.ca/users/FknHannu/statuses/116534339375579760Thu, 07 May 2026 16:55:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 16:53:40 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy ::runs scanner over poem::

"Captain... the savagery... it's off scale"

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/faraiwe/statuses/116534333970712975https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/faraiwe/statuses/116534333970712975Thu, 07 May 2026 16:53:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 16:37:42 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy
😂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nrw.social/users/elala/statuses/116534271150226095https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://nrw.social/users/elala/statuses/116534271150226095Thu, 07 May 2026 16:37:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 16:04:03 GMT]]>@nixCraft this book:
https://saqibooks.com/books/saqi/classical-poems-by-arab-women/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116534138872944966https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ohai.social/users/TarkabarkaHolgy/statuses/116534138872944966Thu, 07 May 2026 16:04:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 15:55:08 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy absolutely love it 👏🏻

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/mim54/statuses/116534103833141539https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/mim54/statuses/116534103833141539Thu, 07 May 2026 15:55:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago: on Thu, 07 May 2026 15:44:45 GMT]]>@TarkabarkaHolgy мне нравится

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