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  3. I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

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  • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

    Okay, here's another one:

    "A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:

    - Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
    niche.
    So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."

    These women were savage 😆

    #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #bookstodon #women

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    #14

    @TarkabarkaHolgy

    And people claim carpet bombing was invented in WWII.

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    • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

      I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

      "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

      (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

      That's it. That's the whole poem.

      #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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      #15

      @TarkabarkaHolgy many such cases

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      • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

        I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

        "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

        (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

        That's it. That's the whole poem.

        #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

        rastal@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @TarkabarkaHolgy That is because women had comprehensive rights in Islam 1400 years ago including property ownership, inheritance and marriage consent. European women didn't get these same rights until the 19th and 20th century. Islam influenced Liberalism. Only in 20th century Europe overtakes Islam and grants more rights to women, which is how we get to today, where the narrative is non Muslim women have more rights, but not long ago, in the recent past, the opposite was true.

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        • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

          I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

          "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

          (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

          That's it. That's the whole poem.

          #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

          fischblog@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @TarkabarkaHolgy There's a fine line between poetry and rant, it seems. 😄

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          • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

            I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

            "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

            (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

            That's it. That's the whole poem.

            #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

            gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @TarkabarkaHolgy

            It's ironic given the poem that her actual name is missing and she listed in terms of the men in her life. "Umm Ja'afar" meaning "Ja'afar's mother" and "bint Ali" meaning "Ali's daughter"

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            • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

              @TarkabarkaHolgy

              It's ironic given the poem that her actual name is missing and she listed in terms of the men in her life. "Umm Ja'afar" meaning "Ja'afar's mother" and "bint Ali" meaning "Ali's daughter"

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              #19

              @gbargoud yeah I noticed that too 😄

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              • contrasocial@mastodon.socialC contrasocial@mastodon.social

                @TarkabarkaHolgy

                And people claim carpet bombing was invented in WWII.

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                #20

                @contrasocial @TarkabarkaHolgy

                but they haven't used it nearly enough on the 'isms"

                ...really carpet bombing patriarchy into oblivion would make the world much better, instantaneously. Then everyone, men, women, others could be, ya know, normal humans instead of status monkey fools.

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                • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                  I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                  "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                  (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                  That's it. That's the whole poem.

                  #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                  #21

                  @TarkabarkaHolgy 🥰

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                  • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                    I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                    "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                    (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                    That's it. That's the whole poem.

                    #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                    #22

                    @TarkabarkaHolgy
                    #WomensOpportunities

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                    • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                      Okay, here's another one:

                      "A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:

                      - Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
                      niche.
                      So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."

                      These women were savage 😆

                      #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #bookstodon #women

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                      #23

                      @TarkabarkaHolgy
                      #WomensOpportunities

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                      • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                        I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                        "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                        (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                        That's it. That's the whole poem.

                        #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                        @TarkabarkaHolgy Sooo.... a man of faith CAN own her? Very sus.

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                        • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                          I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                          "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                          (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                          That's it. That's the whole poem.

                          #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                          @TarkabarkaHolgy can i get book name or URL where i can read it? it will be very good for me. TIA

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                          • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                            I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                            "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                            (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                            That's it. That's the whole poem.

                            #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                            #26

                            @TarkabarkaHolgy мне нравится

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                            • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                              I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                              "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                              (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                              That's it. That's the whole poem.

                              #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                              #27

                              @TarkabarkaHolgy absolutely love it 👏🏻

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                @TarkabarkaHolgy can i get book name or URL where i can read it? it will be very good for me. TIA

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                                @nixCraft this book:
                                https://saqibooks.com/books/saqi/classical-poems-by-arab-women/

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                                • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                                  I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                                  "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                                  (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                                  That's it. That's the whole poem.

                                  #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                                  #29

                                  @TarkabarkaHolgy
                                  😂

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                                  • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                                    Okay, here's another one:

                                    "A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:

                                    - Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
                                    niche.
                                    So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."

                                    These women were savage 😆

                                    #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #bookstodon #women

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                                    #30

                                    @TarkabarkaHolgy ::runs scanner over poem::

                                    "Captain... the savagery... it's off scale"

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                                    • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                                      Okay, here's another one:

                                      "A man asked Thawab bint Abdullah al-Hanzaliyya to marry him but she ignored him, and as he persisted she wrote to him:

                                      - Your manhood stretch stands no chance of slipping through my body’s
                                      niche.
                                      So move it away from my body’s door and take it back whence it came."

                                      These women were savage 😆

                                      #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #bookstodon #women

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                                      #31

                                      @TarkabarkaHolgy if someone told me that I'd be like:

                                      "Ouch. But hey, respect, thats poetic."

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                                      • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                                        @nixCraft this book:
                                        https://saqibooks.com/books/saqi/classical-poems-by-arab-women/

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                                        @TarkabarkaHolgy @nixCraft ftr it's been available, at least US side, for a while, now (2001?). You can get it at places other than Big River, but even Barnes n Noble or BAM should stock it.

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                                        • tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.socialT tarkabarkaholgy@ohai.social

                                          I'm reading a book of classical poems by Arab women, and found this gem from some 1000 years ago:

                                          "Leave me alone, you’re not my equal, you’re not a man of the world nor a man of faith, yet you want to own me, you mindless twit."

                                          (by Umm Ja'far bint Ali)

                                          That's it. That's the whole poem.

                                          #poetry #poem #WomensHistory #women #literature #art #bookstodon

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                                          @TarkabarkaHolgy I'd love to hear the untranslated version of that and work it into music TBH.

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