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Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming.

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  • blindcoder@toot.berlinB blindcoder@toot.berlin

    @jwildeboer Thank you for this! ❤
    One question, if I understand that correctly it's a local privilege escalation, right?
    So assuming there's no RCE present elsewhere, and I'm the only account on the system, I can relax about CopyFail?

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    @blindcoder Yes, it needs local user access. But that could also be tunnelled through an exploitable Wordpress install or other PHP etc stuff. SELinux might already help in that case, but my general rule would be: If the machine is exposed to the internet, deploy the mitigation. For machines that are not open to the internet, like homelabs etc it is an acceptable risk to wait for the updated kernel packages.

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    • blindcoder@toot.berlinB blindcoder@toot.berlin

      @jwildeboer Thank you for this! ❤
      One question, if I understand that correctly it's a local privilege escalation, right?
      So assuming there's no RCE present elsewhere, and I'm the only account on the system, I can relax about CopyFail?

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      @blindcoder @jwildeboer That's my understanding as well, but if an intruder somehow manages to run shell or custom app you might be in trouble

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      • blindcoder@toot.berlinB blindcoder@toot.berlin

        @jwildeboer Thank you for this! ❤
        One question, if I understand that correctly it's a local privilege escalation, right?
        So assuming there's no RCE present elsewhere, and I'm the only account on the system, I can relax about CopyFail?

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        #25

        @blindcoder @jwildeboer
        It appears so.

        As long as by "system" you mean hardware and not a container (e.g. docker).

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        • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

          @jwildeboer I'm confused somewhat by how distros didn't pick it up, looks like some don't have representatives on the kernel list?

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          #26

          @larsmb Could be. I guess the topic is a bit more complex. Some distros have `algif_aead` as module, so you can do the big hammer approach and `rmmod` it, other distros have `algif_aead` compiled into the kernel, so you need a more surgical approach, like the one I described. The surgical approach however has the advantage of working for both setups.

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            The TL;DR of #CopyFail in my opinion: Due to an unusual (I personally think irresponsible) disclosure, we sysadmins are now dealing with having to push out an immediate mitigation until the updated kernel packages become available. I am trying to help in a pragmatic way. This too will pass, but it also shows that running Linux servers comes with responsibilities to protect your machines and users.

            4/4

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            @jwildeboer
            Tbf whilst It's not great, its AT LEAST not remotely exploitable. Problematic if your workload runs untrusted stuff from external sources directly, absolutely. But likewise not quite as sky is falling as some have seemed to make it out to be.

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              The TL;DR of #CopyFail in my opinion: Due to an unusual (I personally think irresponsible) disclosure, we sysadmins are now dealing with having to push out an immediate mitigation until the updated kernel packages become available. I am trying to help in a pragmatic way. This too will pass, but it also shows that running Linux servers comes with responsibilities to protect your machines and users.

              4/4

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              #28

              ADDENDUM: Now also a blog post at https://jan.wildeboer.net/2026/05/PSA-CopyFail-CVE-2026-31431/

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                ADDENDUM: Now also a blog post at https://jan.wildeboer.net/2026/05/PSA-CopyFail-CVE-2026-31431/

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                #29

                @jwildeboer Nice! Btw wiki page is up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Fail 🙂

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Here’s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                  initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                  to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                  # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                  This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe 🙂

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                    @Larvitz Edit: removed unhelpful cheap joke. I'm sorry. Will try harder to resist next time.
                    @jwildeboer

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Here’s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                      initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                      to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                      # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                      This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe 🙂

                      1/4

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                      @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                      • flxtr@social.tchncs.deF flxtr@social.tchncs.de

                        @Larvitz Edit: removed unhelpful cheap joke. I'm sorry. Will try harder to resist next time.
                        @jwildeboer

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                        #33

                        @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess 😞

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess 😞

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                          @jwildeboer I'm sorry. You're right. Should have posted the cheap joke in my own feed.
                          @Larvitz

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                          • sorro@woof.techS sorro@woof.tech

                            @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                            @Sorro I don't know. Depends if `algif_aead` is compiled into the kernel or loaded as module, if it is present at all in Android kernels. If somebody has checked, please do reply.

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Here’s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                              initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                              to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                              # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                              This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe 🙂

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                              @jwildeboer what about those who cannot be downtimed to reboot?

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                              • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                                @larsmb

                                Debian:

                                CVE-2026-31431

                                favicon

                                (security-tracker.debian.org)

                                @jwildeboer

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                                @echopapa @larsmb @jwildeboer alma (yay the new centos model 🎉) https://almalinux.org/blog/2026-05-01-cve-2026-31431-copy-fail/

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Here’s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                                  initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                                  to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                                  # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                                  This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe 🙂

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                                  @jwildeboer
                                  There's a special place in hell for security researchers who obfuscate their proof-of-concept exploit code.
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                                  • sorro@woof.techS sorro@woof.tech

                                    @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                                    @Sorro @jwildeboer

                                    Are there any users on your Android phone who might take advantage of #copyfail ?

                                    For single-user systems there is no problem, because it's not a remote exploit.

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess 😞

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                                      @jwildeboer @flxtr Deleted it. Sorry, could not help myself and thought "Galgenhumor" could help make this serious topic a bit more relaxed.

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                                      • psyhackological@fosstodon.orgP psyhackological@fosstodon.org

                                        @jwildeboer what about those who cannot be downtimed to reboot?

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                                        @psyhackological They'll have to do a risk calculation. It is a local user exploit, so in most cases when you freeze the current software deployment, you should be safe until the kernel patches have arrived. In general, though, your contingency plans should ALWAYS make reboots possible.

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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          @psyhackological They'll have to do a risk calculation. It is a local user exploit, so in most cases when you freeze the current software deployment, you should be safe until the kernel patches have arrived. In general, though, your contingency plans should ALWAYS make reboots possible.

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                                          @jwildeboer from what I read isn't this about removing kernel module? I think this keeps the system running without a reboot

                                          echo "install algif_aead /bin/false" > /etc/modprobe.d/disable-algif.conf
                                          rmmod algif_aead

                                          Don't know what will happen when it reboots though so I would stick to your plan.

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