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Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming.

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  • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

    @jwildeboer I'm confused somewhat by how distros didn't pick it up, looks like some don't have representatives on the kernel list?

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    @larsmb Could be. I guess the topic is a bit more complex. Some distros have `algif_aead` as module, so you can do the big hammer approach and `rmmod` it, other distros have `algif_aead` compiled into the kernel, so you need a more surgical approach, like the one I described. The surgical approach however has the advantage of working for both setups.

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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      The TL;DR of #CopyFail in my opinion: Due to an unusual (I personally think irresponsible) disclosure, we sysadmins are now dealing with having to push out an immediate mitigation until the updated kernel packages become available. I am trying to help in a pragmatic way. This too will pass, but it also shows that running Linux servers comes with responsibilities to protect your machines and users.

      4/4

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      @jwildeboer
      Tbf whilst It's not great, its AT LEAST not remotely exploitable. Problematic if your workload runs untrusted stuff from external sources directly, absolutely. But likewise not quite as sky is falling as some have seemed to make it out to be.

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        The TL;DR of #CopyFail in my opinion: Due to an unusual (I personally think irresponsible) disclosure, we sysadmins are now dealing with having to push out an immediate mitigation until the updated kernel packages become available. I am trying to help in a pragmatic way. This too will pass, but it also shows that running Linux servers comes with responsibilities to protect your machines and users.

        4/4

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        ADDENDUM: Now also a blog post at https://jan.wildeboer.net/2026/05/PSA-CopyFail-CVE-2026-31431/

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          ADDENDUM: Now also a blog post at https://jan.wildeboer.net/2026/05/PSA-CopyFail-CVE-2026-31431/

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          @jwildeboer Nice! Btw wiki page is up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copy_Fail ๐Ÿ™‚

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Hereโ€™s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

            initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

            to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

            # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

            This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe ๐Ÿ™‚

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            • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

              This post is deleted!

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              @Larvitz Edit: removed unhelpful cheap joke. I'm sorry. Will try harder to resist next time.
              @jwildeboer

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Hereโ€™s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe ๐Ÿ™‚

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                @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                • flxtr@social.tchncs.deF flxtr@social.tchncs.de

                  @Larvitz Edit: removed unhelpful cheap joke. I'm sorry. Will try harder to resist next time.
                  @jwildeboer

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                  @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                    @jwildeboer I'm sorry. You're right. Should have posted the cheap joke in my own feed.
                    @Larvitz

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                    • sorro@woof.techS sorro@woof.tech

                      @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                      @Sorro I don't know. Depends if `algif_aead` is compiled into the kernel or loaded as module, if it is present at all in Android kernels. If somebody has checked, please do reply.

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Hereโ€™s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                        initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                        to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                        # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                        This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe ๐Ÿ™‚

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                        @jwildeboer what about those who cannot be downtimed to reboot?

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                        • echopapa@social.tchncs.deE echopapa@social.tchncs.de

                          @larsmb

                          Debian:

                          CVE-2026-31431

                          favicon

                          (security-tracker.debian.org)

                          @jwildeboer

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                          @echopapa @larsmb @jwildeboer alma (yay the new centos model ๐ŸŽ‰) https://almalinux.org/blog/2026-05-01-cve-2026-31431-copy-fail/

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            Ah, the #copyfail clickbait posts are coming. Hereโ€™s my contribution. On your Linux machine add

                            initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init

                            to your kernel boot commandline (typically in grub). Reboot. You are now safe until the updated kernel packages become available. For distributions with the `grubby` command this is done as root with

                            # grubby --update-kernel=ALL --args="initcall_blacklist=algif_aead_init"

                            This mitigation comes courtesy of Red Hat. Our engineers keep you safe ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            @jwildeboer
                            There's a special place in hell for security researchers who obfuscate their proof-of-concept exploit code.
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                            • sorro@woof.techS sorro@woof.tech

                              @jwildeboer since android runs with the linux kernel, is android also affected?

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                              @Sorro @jwildeboer

                              Are there any users on your Android phone who might take advantage of #copyfail ?

                              For single-user systems there is no problem, because it's not a remote exploit.

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                              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                @flxtr @Larvitz I really try hard to make this thread helpful and pragmatic, but boys gotta be boys I guess ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                                @jwildeboer @flxtr Deleted it. Sorry, could not help myself and thought "Galgenhumor" could help make this serious topic a bit more relaxed.

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                                • psyhackological@fosstodon.orgP psyhackological@fosstodon.org

                                  @jwildeboer what about those who cannot be downtimed to reboot?

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                                  @psyhackological They'll have to do a risk calculation. It is a local user exploit, so in most cases when you freeze the current software deployment, you should be safe until the kernel patches have arrived. In general, though, your contingency plans should ALWAYS make reboots possible.

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    @psyhackological They'll have to do a risk calculation. It is a local user exploit, so in most cases when you freeze the current software deployment, you should be safe until the kernel patches have arrived. In general, though, your contingency plans should ALWAYS make reboots possible.

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                                    @jwildeboer from what I read isn't this about removing kernel module? I think this keeps the system running without a reboot

                                    echo "install algif_aead /bin/false" > /etc/modprobe.d/disable-algif.conf
                                    rmmod algif_aead

                                    Don't know what will happen when it reboots though so I would stick to your plan.

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                                    • psyhackological@fosstodon.orgP psyhackological@fosstodon.org

                                      @jwildeboer from what I read isn't this about removing kernel module? I think this keeps the system running without a reboot

                                      echo "install algif_aead /bin/false" > /etc/modprobe.d/disable-algif.conf
                                      rmmod algif_aead

                                      Don't know what will happen when it reboots though so I would stick to your plan.

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                                      @psyhackological Depends on your distribution. Some have it as module, some have it directly compiled into the kernel.

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        @Sorro I don't know. Depends if `algif_aead` is compiled into the kernel or loaded as module, if it is present at all in Android kernels. If somebody has checked, please do reply.

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                                        @jwildeboer @Sorro It's a bit hard to say because of the many, many flavors of Android in the wild, but it is very likely not affected for various reasons: by default, SELinux is configured to not allow alg_socket for sandboxed apps (see https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/sepolicy/+/refs/tags/android-16.0.0_r4/private/app_neverallows.te#141), there are usually no suid binaries on Android, and algif_aead is usually not provided in the first place. Of course, a very old Android version might be affected, but in that case, you're open to various other exploits anyway...

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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          @psyhackological Depends on your distribution. Some have it as module, some have it directly compiled into the kernel.

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                                          @jwildeboer we're on Ubuntu. Yiakes then... So it needs to be checked otherwise.

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