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“The US is no longer a democracy.

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  • finchhaven@sfba.socialF finchhaven@sfba.social

    @KathyLK

    That's right

    Everything is #JoeBiden's fault

    Funny how I keep forgetting this

    Always makes thinking so much simpler

    If you even bother with 'thinking' at all

    cc @heidilifeldman

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    @FinchHaven @KathyLK @heidilifeldman

    Democrats were so concerned with decorum that they let a traitor get away with treason / sedition and then he got elected President.

    They deserve to accept some responsibility for where we are right now.

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    • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

      “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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      @heidilifeldman
      gringolandia is naziville

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      • pinoycelt@mastodon.socialP pinoycelt@mastodon.social

        @heidilifeldman No, the US has always been more accurately described as a constitutional republic (if anything, maybe you can call it an indirect democracy, but definitely not a pure form of one). I believe this article best sums things up: https://www.standrewslawreview.com/post/is-the-united-states-a-constitutional-republic

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        clickymcticker@hachyderm.io
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        @pinoycelt @heidilifeldman “The US falls under governmental classifications for both Indirect Democracy and Constitutional Republic”

        This article sums nothing up, unless your point is that it is both a republic and a democracy. If that’s your point, I don’t see the relevance to the topic.

        The issue at hand is that the USA has historically been a representative democracy, and the current trajectory will see it losing that status soon.

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        • donray@mastodon.onlineD donray@mastodon.online

          @heidilifeldman

          Quibble: Congress has not “been marginalised.” Congress abdicated.

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          @donray

          That would be, with slight exceptions, Republicans in Congress.

          @heidilifeldman

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          • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

            “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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            ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

            Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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            @heidilifeldman
            The USA has always been a low quality democracy, or even no democracy at all. But it was hidden. Not anymore.

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            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

              “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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              ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

              Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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              the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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              @heidilifeldman to no surprise here.

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              • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                @heidilifeldman I'm eagerly waiting for november event.

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                • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                  “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

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                  ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                  Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                  the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

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                  @heidilifeldman

                  Thanks to the electoral college, it never was a democracy.

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                  • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

                    @heidilifeldman man in fairness Congress mainly marginalized itself by a gradual conversion from legislating to being an insider trading sinecure

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                    @ferrix this @heidilifeldman

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                    • josh@hactivedirectory.comJ josh@hactivedirectory.com

                      @KathyLK @heidilifeldman Wouldn’t it be more useful to hold Trump accountable for his actions than to hold Biden accountable for Trump’s actions? 🤔

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                      @heidilifeldman @josh @KathyLK US propaganda frames never hold those in power accountable

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                        @KathyLK It's not impossible that he could have been held accountable in other ways during the biden admin, but your argument doesn't consider:

                        * He was held accountable in nearly any arena they thought they could get him in;

                        * Prosecution doesn't equate to a winning verdict (he was prosecuted for stealing US secret documents and the judge fell all over herself to not hold him accountable to the point where her superiors told her to cut it out);

                        * Congress?!? SCOTUS?!?!?

                        @heidilifeldman

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                        • josh@hactivedirectory.comJ josh@hactivedirectory.com

                          @KathyLK It's not impossible that he could have been held accountable in other ways during the biden admin, but your argument doesn't consider:

                          * He was held accountable in nearly any arena they thought they could get him in;

                          * Prosecution doesn't equate to a winning verdict (he was prosecuted for stealing US secret documents and the judge fell all over herself to not hold him accountable to the point where her superiors told her to cut it out);

                          * Congress?!? SCOTUS?!?!?

                          @heidilifeldman

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                          @KathyLK
                          For whatever it's worth, Garland was a *huge* disappointment to me. I think it's very possible that he played it too "safe," but he was also on some new ground. I'm not sure SCOTUS would've agreed with other findings and I think the thing I focus on the most is that I don't disagree that the "parking brake" failed but it's *more* concerning to me that the "service/foot brakes" seem to be out (state legislature, congress, judiciary).

                          @heidilifeldman

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                          • C clickymcticker@hachyderm.io

                            @pinoycelt @heidilifeldman “The US falls under governmental classifications for both Indirect Democracy and Constitutional Republic”

                            This article sums nothing up, unless your point is that it is both a republic and a democracy. If that’s your point, I don’t see the relevance to the topic.

                            The issue at hand is that the USA has historically been a representative democracy, and the current trajectory will see it losing that status soon.

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                            @ClickyMcTicker @heidilifeldman It was simply a correction to the suggestion that the US is a straight democracy, which it has never been

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                            • heidilifeldman@mastodon.socialH heidilifeldman@mastodon.social

                              “The US is no longer a democracy. One of the most credible global sources on the health of democratic nations now says this outright. The Varieties of Democracy Institute at Gothenburg University reaches the alarming conclusio … that the US is hurtling towards autocracy at a faster rate than Hungary and Turkey.” 1/

                              Link Preview Image
                              ‘Trump is aiming for dictatorship’. That’s the verdict of the world’s most credible democracy watchdog | Martin Gelin

                              Sweden’s V-Dem Institute warns that the US is no longer a liberal democracy. And autocracy is creeping across Europe too, says writer Martin Gelin

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                              @heidilifeldman In truth, it never was a democracy. That's a fiction it likes to tell itself. The electoral college, and allowing private money into politics, both rule it out as being democratic.

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                              • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

                                @heidilifeldman man in fairness Congress mainly marginalized itself by a gradual conversion from legislating to being an insider trading sinecure

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                                @ferrix @heidilifeldman

                                Really who in Congress is insider trading? What stocks and what insider information? I keep hearing this fact free claim.

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                                  @KathyLK @heidilifeldman

                                  Yes Joe Biden should have taken over the justice department and turned us into a tinpot dictatorship first by prosecuting his political opposition. The American people are responsible for the rise of Trump, 77 million people voted for this and another 90 million stayed home. Special shout out to all the leftists who claimed both sides are the same.

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                                  • jrdepriest@infosec.exchangeJ jrdepriest@infosec.exchange

                                    @FinchHaven @KathyLK @heidilifeldman

                                    Democrats were so concerned with decorum that they let a traitor get away with treason / sedition and then he got elected President.

                                    They deserve to accept some responsibility for where we are right now.

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                                    @jrdepriest @FinchHaven @KathyLK @heidilifeldman

                                    The Democrats were prosecuting that criminal and he had four cases going. The American people let him off the hook when they elected him. Don't blame the Democrats for the stupidity of everyone else.

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                                      @KathyLK @jrdepriest @FinchHaven @heidilifeldman

                                      Schumer was selected by his peers to be in a leadership position and quite frankly has done a great job. The Democrats didn't put Trump in office; that was the American people. Whether through the right's ignorance or the leftist's apathy. Don't forget to thank Bernie and the leftists for telling everyone that both sides were the same, without them none of this would have been possible.

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