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I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

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  • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

    How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

    Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

    To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

    paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP benjamineskola@hachyderm.ioB mr_baub@ioc.exchangeM ovrim@wien.rocksO tsturm@famichiki.jpT 7 Replies Last reply
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    • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

      I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

      How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

      Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

      To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

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      @jschauma

      +1000

      solid, consistent apprenticeship and mentoring programs are how you grow senior talent. that means human beings throughout the talent chain.

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      • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

        I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

        How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

        Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

        To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

        benjamineskola@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jschauma they believe that by the time it matters, AI will be able to do all of the validation and debugging.

        No, it doesn’t make any sense.

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        • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

          I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

          How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

          Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

          To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

          mr_baub@ioc.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jschauma The scary thing is that this isn't just for software, it's everywhere. I've heard similar concerns from InfoSec, Accounting, etc, that new talent pipelines will dry up and no one will be around to replace those who leave.

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          • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

            I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

            How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

            Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

            To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

            ovrim@wien.rocksO This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jschauma Managers in companies living from one quarter to the next don't think that far in the future ...

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            • mr_baub@ioc.exchangeM mr_baub@ioc.exchange

              @jschauma The scary thing is that this isn't just for software, it's everywhere. I've heard similar concerns from InfoSec, Accounting, etc, that new talent pipelines will dry up and no one will be around to replace those who leave.

              bryan@dusty.ninjaB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mr_baub @jschauma
              They are hoping by then they’ll have senior AI. 🤖

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              • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

                I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

                How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

                Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

                To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

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                @jschauma As a late-fifties senior engineer, I see unlimited job security for as long as I want to bother with it. In a few years, the number of available senior engineers will drop dramatically as the industry has essentially stopped to train new talent.

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                • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

                  I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

                  How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

                  Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

                  To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

                  jsalvador@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jschauma I'm still trying to figure out what is a senior vibe coding engineer

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                  • jschauma@mstdn.socialJ jschauma@mstdn.social

                    I still don't understand where people think Senior Engineers come from if they replace Junior Engineers with AI.

                    How do they think the next iteration of GIGO regurgitated code will be validated and debugged if nobody understands how the black box works?

                    Not wanting to understand but just wanting the quick answer is a clear trend and implicit outcome of frequent AI use.

                    To me, that's the real supply chain risk.

                    colman@mastodon.ieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jschauma The call of the middle manager, journalist and lawyer: "Anything I don't know how to do is easy."

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