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  3. So I'm thinking about what to use as the guts of the gen2 reworkctf board.

So I'm thinking about what to use as the guts of the gen2 reworkctf board.

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  • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

    So I'm thinking about what to use as the guts of the gen2 reworkctf board.

    I want a BGA of relatively large (0.8 or 1 mm) pitch to allow practicing of BGA site rework without being 11/10 difficulty level right out of the gate.

    The STM32H750XBH6 is $12.39 at digikey in single units, sub $10 in higher volume, although currently sold out until April (I have enough on the shelf to prototype with), 0.8mm depopulated 265-BGA.

    The cheapest Xilinx part in a 1mm FTGB196 is the XC7S6-1FTGB196C at $20.94 qty1 price.

    Any other ideas? A lot of the really low cost parts are like 0.5mm or WLCSP which defeats the point of using a large pitch to make the challenge not too crazy difficult.

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    @azonenberg

    Not serious (terrible availability):

    https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/C1521623.html?s_z=n_lcmxo2-1200u

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      @azonenberg

      Not serious (terrible availability):

      https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/C1521623.html?s_z=n_lcmxo2-1200u

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      @azonenberg ECP5-12F used to fit this bill but they've hiked prices and reduced availability 😕

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      • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

        @azonenberg ECP5-12F used to fit this bill but they've hiked prices and reduced availability 😕

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        @ldcd i feel like i could probably save a dollar or two with a slightly smaller stm32 but the h750 is one i have on the shelf which counts for something too

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        • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

          @ldcd i feel like i could probably save a dollar or two with a slightly smaller stm32 but the h750 is one i have on the shelf which counts for something too

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          @azonenberg the H7s are just really nice all around

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          • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

            @azonenberg the H7s are just really nice all around

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            @ldcd yeah it's just overkill lol.

            I might borrow an idea from @cccpresser and break out some IOs to connectors so it becomes a useful devkit not ewaste when you're done with the challenge. That makes a bigger mcu easier to justify

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            • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

              @ldcd yeah it's just overkill lol.

              I might borrow an idea from @cccpresser and break out some IOs to connectors so it becomes a useful devkit not ewaste when you're done with the challenge. That makes a bigger mcu easier to justify

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              @azonenberg @cccpresser I mean yeah I think that's absolutely a good idea

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              • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                @azonenberg @cccpresser I mean yeah I think that's absolutely a good idea

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                @ldcd @cccpresser yep it is, it never occurred to me on the first iteration but for rev 2 I'll definitely be doing it

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                • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                  @ldcd @cccpresser yep it is, it never occurred to me on the first iteration but for rev 2 I'll definitely be doing it

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                  @azonenberg @cccpresser 0.4 but long pads https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/epc/EPC8009/4990585

                  Could have a little switch mode for funzies.

                  I think having a dev board you've done some rework on makes people more likely to use it

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                  • ldcd@social.treehouse.systemsL ldcd@social.treehouse.systems

                    @azonenberg @cccpresser 0.4 but long pads https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/epc/EPC8009/4990585

                    Could have a little switch mode for funzies.

                    I think having a dev board you've done some rework on makes people more likely to use it

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                    @ldcd Lol.

                    I specifically need a large-ish pitch BGA (which makes sense to be the main processor of the system) for BGA site rework challenges though.

                    I think I'm gonna run with the H750.

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                    • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                      @0h00000000 That's an 0.5mm pitch package

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                      @azonenberg ST "TFBGA" should be .8mm, but the dist may have the info wrong.

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