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I knew Chris Olah from a hackerspace I was apart of 15 years ago.

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  • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

    I remember the conversations we had after he came back from Thiel. I was too young and didn't have the vocabulary to counter the ideology that'd been driven into him. eventually, I gave up trying to get him back to the way he was.

    I'm actually fucking crying. not like FUCKING THIS, man.

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    @AmyZenunim I wish I could ask what the hell happened. I had a friend go into the marines way back when and he came back a totally different person, but they literally have a whole system meant to break humans.

    A summer with delulu rich nerds totally changing a person makes the inside of my soul crawl because people close to me run frighteningly close to those circles.

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    • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

      I remember the conversations we had after he came back from Thiel. I was too young and didn't have the vocabulary to counter the ideology that'd been driven into him. eventually, I gave up trying to get him back to the way he was.

      I'm actually fucking crying. not like FUCKING THIS, man.

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      until this moment, in the back of my mind, I still considered him a friend. a misguided friend; that maybe one day, we could meet, and I could convince him of the errors of his ways.

      but now, he's an archangel for his unborn god. it's as if he ceased to be human at all.

      and so, he's dead to me.

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      • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

        I remember the conversations we had after he came back from Thiel. I was too young and didn't have the vocabulary to counter the ideology that'd been driven into him. eventually, I gave up trying to get him back to the way he was.

        I'm actually fucking crying. not like FUCKING THIS, man.

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        @AmyZenunim I am curious. If you could go back to that moment with specifically the vocabulary, no knowledge of what he would become . . . what would you have told him?

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        • ochotonidknight@meemu.orgO ochotonidknight@meemu.org

          @AmyZenunim I am curious. If you could go back to that moment with specifically the vocabulary, no knowledge of what he would become . . . what would you have told him?

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          @OchotonidKnight probably something about the history of capitalism, the myth of barter, something about the inherent value of labour, I don't know. just anything other than shutting down in the face of his new gospel.

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          • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

            @OchotonidKnight probably something about the history of capitalism, the myth of barter, something about the inherent value of labour, I don't know. just anything other than shutting down in the face of his new gospel.

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            @AmyZenunim I appreciate knowing. May this tragedy never happen again.

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            • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

              I knew Chris Olah from a hackerspace I was apart of 15 years ago.

              he was a cool dude. believed in social justice. taught me a lot about math. we had good times together.

              then he had one summer at the Thiel Fellowship.

              after that, he wasn't the same.

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              The full text of Chris Olah's remarks on the Pope's encyclical on AI

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              @AmyZenunim Wait. THATS where he ended up? Fucking hell.

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              • owen@mastodon.transneptune.netO owen@mastodon.transneptune.net

                @AmyZenunim Wait. THATS where he ended up? Fucking hell.

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                @owen he's a billionaire, Owen. a fully-fledged TESCREAL pusher billionaire writing letters to the pope about how the pope's god is soon to be obsolete. Peter Thiel's hand-picked protege, and if I'm reading the papers right, the guy who made LLMs feasible at all.

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                • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                  I knew Chris Olah from a hackerspace I was apart of 15 years ago.

                  he was a cool dude. believed in social justice. taught me a lot about math. we had good times together.

                  then he had one summer at the Thiel Fellowship.

                  after that, he wasn't the same.

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                  Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah's remarks on Pope Leo XIV's encyclical "Magnifica humanitas"

                  The full text of Chris Olah's remarks on the Pope's encyclical on AI

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                  (www.anthropic.com)

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                  @AmyZenunim Just like Denethor, Steward of Gondor

                  It all sounds too appropriate, and so sad

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                  • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                    I knew Chris Olah from a hackerspace I was apart of 15 years ago.

                    he was a cool dude. believed in social justice. taught me a lot about math. we had good times together.

                    then he had one summer at the Thiel Fellowship.

                    after that, he wasn't the same.

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                    Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah's remarks on Pope Leo XIV's encyclical "Magnifica humanitas"

                    The full text of Chris Olah's remarks on the Pope's encyclical on AI

                    favicon

                    (www.anthropic.com)

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                    @AmyZenunim

                    "AI systems are not engineered the way a bridge or an airplane is engineered. We understand an airplane because we designed every part of it and we understand the physics that act on it. AI models are not like that. They are grown, on a structure roughly modeled after the brain, on an enormous inheritance of human thought and speech."

                    How many drugs someone needs to take to become so stupid?

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                    • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                      until this moment, in the back of my mind, I still considered him a friend. a misguided friend; that maybe one day, we could meet, and I could convince him of the errors of his ways.

                      but now, he's an archangel for his unborn god. it's as if he ceased to be human at all.

                      and so, he's dead to me.

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                      @AmyZenunim I’m sorry they killed your friend.

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                      • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                        @owen he's a billionaire, Owen. a fully-fledged TESCREAL pusher billionaire writing letters to the pope about how the pope's god is soon to be obsolete. Peter Thiel's hand-picked protege, and if I'm reading the papers right, the guy who made LLMs feasible at all.

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                        @AmyZenunim @owen Polemics, satire, and sarcasm are key non-violent weapons. The civilians I speak to don't trust what is being advanced or proposed.

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                        • dbg3d@masto.esD dbg3d@masto.es

                          @AmyZenunim

                          "AI systems are not engineered the way a bridge or an airplane is engineered. We understand an airplane because we designed every part of it and we understand the physics that act on it. AI models are not like that. They are grown, on a structure roughly modeled after the brain, on an enormous inheritance of human thought and speech."

                          How many drugs someone needs to take to become so stupid?

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                          @DBG3D approximately $1,000,000,000 worth

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                          • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                            I knew Chris Olah from a hackerspace I was apart of 15 years ago.

                            he was a cool dude. believed in social justice. taught me a lot about math. we had good times together.

                            then he had one summer at the Thiel Fellowship.

                            after that, he wasn't the same.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Anthropic co-founder Chris Olah's remarks on Pope Leo XIV's encyclical "Magnifica humanitas"

                            The full text of Chris Olah's remarks on the Pope's encyclical on AI

                            favicon

                            (www.anthropic.com)

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                            @AmyZenunim Wait. That’s what theil twisted Chris into? I knew he changed after that summer, but this?

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                            • illegalhex@hachyderm.ioI illegalhex@hachyderm.io

                              @AmyZenunim Wait. That’s what theil twisted Chris into? I knew he changed after that summer, but this?

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                              @illegalhex yep

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                              • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                                for years, in conversation, I used him as an example of how effective the system is at indoctrination.

                                I didn't think he'd wind up a billionaire neck-deep in a cult trying to destroy the human race.

                                not like this, man. not like fucking this.

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                                @AmyZenunim forgive me for a prying question, but I note that the Wikipedia article on Chris Olah (any relation to chemist George Olah? uh, nm that silly question) says he dropped out of college at age 18. was that a decision he made after the Thiel Fellowship thing?

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                                • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

                                  @AmyZenunim forgive me for a prying question, but I note that the Wikipedia article on Chris Olah (any relation to chemist George Olah? uh, nm that silly question) says he dropped out of college at age 18. was that a decision he made after the Thiel Fellowship thing?

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                                  @mxchara i don't remember the exact timeline, as it was so long ago, and I don't know the intimate details of his life

                                  he was definitely out of school and working on other things when I met him. maybe he applied to the fellowship as a way to do something outside of school.

                                  either way, I remember him going into the fellowship somewhat skeptical and wary, and coming out utterly radicalized.

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                                  • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                                    @mxchara i don't remember the exact timeline, as it was so long ago, and I don't know the intimate details of his life

                                    he was definitely out of school and working on other things when I met him. maybe he applied to the fellowship as a way to do something outside of school.

                                    either way, I remember him going into the fellowship somewhat skeptical and wary, and coming out utterly radicalized.

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                                    @AmyZenunim I am saddened to hear it. I guess that Thiel crap must seem quite intoxicating to some folks, like Ayn Rand

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                                    • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                                      @illegalhex yep

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                                      @illegalhex tbh i knew he was working on AI at google but it was all that pipe dream AGI bullshit at the time

                                      but now he's an actual billionaire destroying the lives of everyone I know

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                                      • mxchara@seattle.pinkM mxchara@seattle.pink

                                        @AmyZenunim I am saddened to hear it. I guess that Thiel crap must seem quite intoxicating to some folks, like Ayn Rand

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                                        @mxchara from what I've read, part of it is giving you "staff" and a truckload of money. basically, they give you a taste of being a rich billionaire fuck, and then groom you into positions of power from a young age.

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                                        • amyzenunim@unstable.systemsA amyzenunim@unstable.systems

                                          @illegalhex tbh i knew he was working on AI at google but it was all that pipe dream AGI bullshit at the time

                                          but now he's an actual billionaire destroying the lives of everyone I know

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                                          @AmyZenunim like when it was ML making weird cat images that was interesting, but not this AI shite.

                                          And it really is the same Chris Olah? The same? Like, not some evil clone or something? Fuck.

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