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  • nestab@infosec.exchangeN nestab@infosec.exchange

    @keepassxc πŸ˜†
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    @nestab @keepassxc The p.s. I use VoidLinux and the b.t.w. I use ArchLinux folks are awake now ? πŸ˜‡

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    • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

      @keepassxc as said, at least common Domains with "-" are with .com, .net and .org like 30$ a year.

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      @gremlin And then multiply it by 10 different TLDs.

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      • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

        @gremlin And then multiply it by 10 different TLDs.

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        @keepassxc If I want to secure my Shit I do it, you host a Software of Security. Like what are you trying to tell me? That the security of your Users isn't worth it?

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        • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

          @keepassxc If I want to secure my Shit I do it, you host a Software of Security. Like what are you trying to tell me? That the security of your Users isn't worth it?

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          @gremlin As I said, we already own quite a few different domains. We're a small open source project. We get a healthy amount of donations, but we cannot spend $2000 a year on domains, just so someone can register yet another one we haven't registered yet.

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          • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

            @gremlin As I said, we already own quite a few different domains. We're a small open source project. We get a healthy amount of donations, but we cannot spend $2000 a year on domains, just so someone can register yet another one we haven't registered yet.

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            @keepassxc If you are even close to over 200-300€ for your Domains per year you do something really wrong. I guess you should check-out https://tldes.com and find a Register that does not Rip the Shit out of you (I pay around 190€ for 30 Domains with Common Extensions)

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            • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

              @keepassxc If you are even close to over 200-300€ for your Domains per year you do something really wrong. I guess you should check-out https://tldes.com and find a Register that does not Rip the Shit out of you (I pay around 190€ for 30 Domains with Common Extensions)

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              @gremlin Six different variants with hyphens, kee, key -pw etc. times 10 TLDs times $30 is $1800. But if you want to help, keepassxc[.]com is on auction for a mere $50,000.

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              • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                @gremlin Six different variants with hyphens, kee, key -pw etc. times 10 TLDs times $30 is $1800. But if you want to help, keepassxc[.]com is on auction for a mere $50,000.

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                @keepassxc

                You need:
                KeepassXC/com
                KeepassXC/org
                KeepassXC/net
                maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                  @keepassxc

                  You need:
                  KeepassXC/com
                  KeepassXC/org
                  KeepassXC/net
                  maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                  I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                  @gremlin com is taken, see above. We own net, org, eu, de, us, and some others. Most of these TLDs are $10 the first year and then $15-30 for every following year unless you choose a different registrar for each. app and dev are among the most expensive ones. And then you still have to multiply all those by the number of typosquats you want to catch, which are easily 6-10 for each one.

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                  • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                    @gremlin com is taken, see above. We own net, org, eu, de, us, and some others. Most of these TLDs are $10 the first year and then $15-30 for every following year unless you choose a different registrar for each. app and dev are among the most expensive ones. And then you still have to multiply all those by the number of typosquats you want to catch, which are easily 6-10 for each one.

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                    @keepassxc It's not like I do not get your Point. Don't get me wrong. But "-" are not special and should always be considered before getting other specific Domains like .eu, .us or .de. But yeah, I can not change it. Maybe in the near future you own these days to make it more safe for your users.

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                    • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                      @keepassxc as said, at least common Domains with "-" are with .com, .net and .org like 30$ a year.

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                      @gremlin @keepassxc Feel free to purchase and maintain them as a donation to the #KeePassXC project then.

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                      • wolfram_roesler@mastodontech.deW wolfram_roesler@mastodontech.de

                        @gremlin @keepassxc Feel free to purchase and maintain them as a donation to the #KeePassXC project then.

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                        @wolfram_roesler @keepassxc You can't make up Boomer names like that, Wolfram; I donate enough to the FOSS community with my server performance, so don't worry about that.

                        But I'd love to return the favor. The KeepassXC team would be happy if you did, especially if you use their software. πŸ˜‡

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                        • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                          @keepassxc It's not like I do not get your Point. Don't get me wrong. But "-" are not special and should always be considered before getting other specific Domains like .eu, .us or .de. But yeah, I can not change it. Maybe in the near future you own these days to make it more safe for your users.

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                          @gremlin The reason we started registering all those other TLDs is exactly because someone took .com and then used it to distribute fake downloads. We got the domain blocklisted quickly, so they put it up for sale. It's off the blocklist again now, but we haven't been able to acquire it and I don't think they'll ever let go of it unless we pay their scalper price.

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                          • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                            @keepassxc

                            You need:
                            KeepassXC/com
                            KeepassXC/org
                            KeepassXC/net
                            maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                            I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                            @gremlin @keepassxc You completely missed the point, there. Scroll back a few posts. Please.

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                            • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                              @gremlin The reason we started registering all those other TLDs is exactly because someone took .com and then used it to distribute fake downloads. We got the domain blocklisted quickly, so they put it up for sale. It's off the blocklist again now, but we haven't been able to acquire it and I don't think they'll ever let go of it unless we pay their scalper price.

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                              @keepassxc I mean idk from where you are but in the most cases it is enough to send a "friendly" letter from a lawyer to the Register and it is done. Nobody pays 50K for a Domain and these Scums of Re-Sellers know this. As said, maybe get a legal consultation of the Situation, I am not a lawyer I can only represent my Experience with these scummy Companies in the Past.

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                              • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                @keepassxc I mean idk from where you are but in the most cases it is enough to send a "friendly" letter from a lawyer to the Register and it is done. Nobody pays 50K for a Domain and these Scums of Re-Sellers know this. As said, maybe get a legal consultation of the Situation, I am not a lawyer I can only represent my Experience with these scummy Companies in the Past.

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                                @gremlin Of course they want to auction it off. The 50k is just the "buy now, stupid" price. But we're not a registered legal trademark (yet). Otherwise we'd have done that a long time ago.

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                                • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                                  @gremlin Of course they want to auction it off. The 50k is just the "buy now, stupid" price. But we're not a registered legal trademark (yet). Otherwise we'd have done that a long time ago.

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                                  @keepassxc Welp okay, this is also a big point. But yeah GoDaddy is a Pain in the Ass. I really hope you get this shit under Control. (If no one else does it within the next week or so we can talk about me presenting the keepass-xc/net/org Domain for you guys as a little "gift". But rn I am on a business trip and really have no time to register/organize this)

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                                  • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                    @keepassxc Welp okay, this is also a big point. But yeah GoDaddy is a Pain in the Ass. I really hope you get this shit under Control. (If no one else does it within the next week or so we can talk about me presenting the keepass-xc/net/org Domain for you guys as a little "gift". But rn I am on a business trip and really have no time to register/organize this)

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                                    @gremlin I would expect the domain to be put on the safe browsing list for a while and then they'll either drop it or park it. We don't need someone to gift us those domains (unless of course someone has the contacts or measures to transfer keepassxc[.]com to us). We can always buy a few more ourselves, but there will always be more.

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                                    • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                                      @gremlin I would expect the domain to be put on the safe browsing list for a while and then they'll either drop it or park it. We don't need someone to gift us those domains (unless of course someone has the contacts or measures to transfer keepassxc[.]com to us). We can always buy a few more ourselves, but there will always be more.

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                                      @keepassxc as said, just an Offer. I once won against GDaddy with a lawyer, but this as said needs legal consulting. I guess you already contacted GDaddy about the Situation? I mean they will def. not Gift it to you but maybe they are a bit more calm when it comes to Non-Commercial Orgas

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                                      • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                                        @eroc1990 We own several already, but it's a losing game and a pretty expensive one at that.

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                                        @keepassxc @eroc1990
                                        Yeah, that sounds like Whac-a-mole.

                                        Anything else that can be done about it?

                                        I just reported it to DuckDuckgo, it is the third result for "keepass xc" there currently -.-

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                                        • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                          @keepassxc as said, just an Offer. I once won against GDaddy with a lawyer, but this as said needs legal consulting. I guess you already contacted GDaddy about the Situation? I mean they will def. not Gift it to you but maybe they are a bit more calm when it comes to Non-Commercial Orgas

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                                          @gremlin Maybe I'll try again some time. I guess in the meantime I'll spend another €320 on 36 months of more typoquat domains. Fun fact: I checked whether IONOS had a better offer than Godaddy. They did for the domains themselves. But in addition they wanted a fixed one-time fee of just over €1800 for "premium domains". Ridiculous.

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