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🚨 Warning: New FAKE website offering FAKE KeePassXC downloads!

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  • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

    @gremlin We already own a lot of variants with different top-level domains and redirect them to keepassxc.org. The only one we couldn't get is .com, because someone snatched it already and has since put it on auction after it was put on block lists. But we cannot also register all possible combinations with hyphens and typos.

    gremlin@critter.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @keepassxc I mean typos not but something like keepass-xc/com should have been in your mind. But yeah, hopefully DynoDot nukes them soon

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    • eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.netE eroc1990@mastodon.parastor.net

      @keepassxc
      Methinks you should go buy as many typosquat domains as are available before copycats get to them.

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      @eroc1990 We own several already, but it's a losing game and a pretty expensive one at that.

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      • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

        @keepassxc I mean typos not but something like keepass-xc/com should have been in your mind. But yeah, hopefully DynoDot nukes them soon

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        @gremlin There's an infinite number of possible typos like that. Registering them all is pretty futile and expensive.

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        • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

          @gremlin There's an infinite number of possible typos like that. Registering them all is pretty futile and expensive.

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          @keepassxc as said, at least common Domains with "-" are with .com, .net and .org like 30$ a year.

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          • nestab@infosec.exchangeN nestab@infosec.exchange

            @keepassxc πŸ˜†
            from repository

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            @nestab @keepassxc The p.s. I use VoidLinux and the b.t.w. I use ArchLinux folks are awake now ? πŸ˜‡

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            • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

              @keepassxc as said, at least common Domains with "-" are with .com, .net and .org like 30$ a year.

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              @gremlin And then multiply it by 10 different TLDs.

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              • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                @gremlin And then multiply it by 10 different TLDs.

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                @keepassxc If I want to secure my Shit I do it, you host a Software of Security. Like what are you trying to tell me? That the security of your Users isn't worth it?

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                • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                  @keepassxc If I want to secure my Shit I do it, you host a Software of Security. Like what are you trying to tell me? That the security of your Users isn't worth it?

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                  @gremlin As I said, we already own quite a few different domains. We're a small open source project. We get a healthy amount of donations, but we cannot spend $2000 a year on domains, just so someone can register yet another one we haven't registered yet.

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                  • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                    @gremlin As I said, we already own quite a few different domains. We're a small open source project. We get a healthy amount of donations, but we cannot spend $2000 a year on domains, just so someone can register yet another one we haven't registered yet.

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                    @keepassxc If you are even close to over 200-300€ for your Domains per year you do something really wrong. I guess you should check-out https://tldes.com and find a Register that does not Rip the Shit out of you (I pay around 190€ for 30 Domains with Common Extensions)

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                    • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                      @keepassxc If you are even close to over 200-300€ for your Domains per year you do something really wrong. I guess you should check-out https://tldes.com and find a Register that does not Rip the Shit out of you (I pay around 190€ for 30 Domains with Common Extensions)

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                      @gremlin Six different variants with hyphens, kee, key -pw etc. times 10 TLDs times $30 is $1800. But if you want to help, keepassxc[.]com is on auction for a mere $50,000.

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                      • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                        @gremlin Six different variants with hyphens, kee, key -pw etc. times 10 TLDs times $30 is $1800. But if you want to help, keepassxc[.]com is on auction for a mere $50,000.

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                        @keepassxc

                        You need:
                        KeepassXC/com
                        KeepassXC/org
                        KeepassXC/net
                        maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                        I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                        • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                          @keepassxc

                          You need:
                          KeepassXC/com
                          KeepassXC/org
                          KeepassXC/net
                          maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                          I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                          @gremlin com is taken, see above. We own net, org, eu, de, us, and some others. Most of these TLDs are $10 the first year and then $15-30 for every following year unless you choose a different registrar for each. app and dev are among the most expensive ones. And then you still have to multiply all those by the number of typosquats you want to catch, which are easily 6-10 for each one.

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                          • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                            @gremlin com is taken, see above. We own net, org, eu, de, us, and some others. Most of these TLDs are $10 the first year and then $15-30 for every following year unless you choose a different registrar for each. app and dev are among the most expensive ones. And then you still have to multiply all those by the number of typosquats you want to catch, which are easily 6-10 for each one.

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                            @keepassxc It's not like I do not get your Point. Don't get me wrong. But "-" are not special and should always be considered before getting other specific Domains like .eu, .us or .de. But yeah, I can not change it. Maybe in the near future you own these days to make it more safe for your users.

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                            • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                              @keepassxc as said, at least common Domains with "-" are with .com, .net and .org like 30$ a year.

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                              @gremlin @keepassxc Feel free to purchase and maintain them as a donation to the #KeePassXC project then.

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                              • wolfram_roesler@mastodontech.deW wolfram_roesler@mastodontech.de

                                @gremlin @keepassxc Feel free to purchase and maintain them as a donation to the #KeePassXC project then.

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                                @wolfram_roesler @keepassxc You can't make up Boomer names like that, Wolfram; I donate enough to the FOSS community with my server performance, so don't worry about that.

                                But I'd love to return the favor. The KeepassXC team would be happy if you did, especially if you use their software. πŸ˜‡

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                                • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                  @keepassxc It's not like I do not get your Point. Don't get me wrong. But "-" are not special and should always be considered before getting other specific Domains like .eu, .us or .de. But yeah, I can not change it. Maybe in the near future you own these days to make it more safe for your users.

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                                  @gremlin The reason we started registering all those other TLDs is exactly because someone took .com and then used it to distribute fake downloads. We got the domain blocklisted quickly, so they put it up for sale. It's off the blocklist again now, but we haven't been able to acquire it and I don't think they'll ever let go of it unless we pay their scalper price.

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                                  • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                    @keepassxc

                                    You need:
                                    KeepassXC/com
                                    KeepassXC/org
                                    KeepassXC/net
                                    maybe KeepassXC/pw as a "Joke Domain" and the same with "-". Since .com is currently taken it is one less.

                                    I calculate now with 6 Domains, where we end up at around 70$ a year, if we add uncommon extensions or Country specific (in this Case I choose: .info, .biz and .eu) we are still at around 92$ a year. These are not even 1,2K$ a year. Idk what "weird" or uncommon Domains you own. But a basic Brand Shield with these should be enough. And sorry, I do not spend Money at Domain-Suckers/Re-Sellers, I sue the Shit out of them if they infringe my Brand.

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                                    @gremlin @keepassxc You completely missed the point, there. Scroll back a few posts. Please.

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                                    • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                                      @gremlin The reason we started registering all those other TLDs is exactly because someone took .com and then used it to distribute fake downloads. We got the domain blocklisted quickly, so they put it up for sale. It's off the blocklist again now, but we haven't been able to acquire it and I don't think they'll ever let go of it unless we pay their scalper price.

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                                      @keepassxc I mean idk from where you are but in the most cases it is enough to send a "friendly" letter from a lawyer to the Register and it is done. Nobody pays 50K for a Domain and these Scums of Re-Sellers know this. As said, maybe get a legal consultation of the Situation, I am not a lawyer I can only represent my Experience with these scummy Companies in the Past.

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                                      • gremlin@critter.cafeG gremlin@critter.cafe

                                        @keepassxc I mean idk from where you are but in the most cases it is enough to send a "friendly" letter from a lawyer to the Register and it is done. Nobody pays 50K for a Domain and these Scums of Re-Sellers know this. As said, maybe get a legal consultation of the Situation, I am not a lawyer I can only represent my Experience with these scummy Companies in the Past.

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                                        @gremlin Of course they want to auction it off. The 50k is just the "buy now, stupid" price. But we're not a registered legal trademark (yet). Otherwise we'd have done that a long time ago.

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                                        • keepassxc@fosstodon.orgK keepassxc@fosstodon.org

                                          @gremlin Of course they want to auction it off. The 50k is just the "buy now, stupid" price. But we're not a registered legal trademark (yet). Otherwise we'd have done that a long time ago.

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                                          @keepassxc Welp okay, this is also a big point. But yeah GoDaddy is a Pain in the Ass. I really hope you get this shit under Control. (If no one else does it within the next week or so we can talk about me presenting the keepass-xc/net/org Domain for you guys as a little "gift". But rn I am on a business trip and really have no time to register/organize this)

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