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  3. in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

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  • jcpandrade@mastodon.socialJ jcpandrade@mastodon.social

    @dakkar @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 also infinite cycles:

    while :
    do
    <whatever>
    Done

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    @jcpandrade@mastodon.social ha! I tend to do while true because it reads better to me
    (yes, I know that involves a fork+exec, but if we cared about speed we wouldn't be writing shell)
    @ChaosKitsune@woem.men @rebane2001@infosec.exchange

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    • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

      @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

      Id assume it works without?

      Im guessing
      : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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      @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 : is a no-op with no output, which is then redirected to the file.
      See: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3224878/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-colon-gnu-bash-builtin

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      • dakkar@s.thenautilus.netD dakkar@s.thenautilus.net

        @jcpandrade@mastodon.social ha! I tend to do while true because it reads better to me
        (yes, I know that involves a fork+exec, but if we cared about speed we wouldn't be writing shell)
        @ChaosKitsune@woem.men @rebane2001@infosec.exchange

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        @dakkar I used the true but... : is faster and easier to type... Just being lazy, I admit. @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001

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        • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

          in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

          the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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          @rebane2001 The nice bird is named sudo rm -rf /
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          • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

            @rebane2001 it doesn't eat worms `~` โ“

            ```
            $ ๐Ÿ˜† ~
            bash: /home/user: Is a directory
            ```

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            @benjaoming @rebane2001
            ๐Ÿ˜† ./~

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            • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

              in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

              the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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              @rebane2001 It's a cool fact

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              • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                Id assume it works without?

                Im guessing
                : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001

                ':' returns 0 (meaning true). I just checked and '>' clears the file with no input. So, yes, the ':' is just decorative.

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                • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                  in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                  the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                  @rebane2001 :3

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                  • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                    in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                    the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                    @rebane2001 New "Press Alt+F4 to win" just dropped.

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                    • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                      in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                      the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                      @rebane2001 @astraluma

                      Thanks! Iโ€™ve learned AND cemented ๐Ÿ˜† as evil bird

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                      • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                        in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                        the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                        @rebane2001

                        Very interesting. Never seen it in a long life of use of Unix.

                        Is there a "cheat sheet" of other unknown - at least by me ๐Ÿ™‚ - such "wild" characters for file redirection ?

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                        • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                          @rebane2001

                          Very interesting. Never seen it in a long life of use of Unix.

                          Is there a "cheat sheet" of other unknown - at least by me ๐Ÿ™‚ - such "wild" characters for file redirection ?

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                          @tanavit > is pretty well known and : is a shell built-in similar to true, it's just the combination of the two that's uncommon

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                          • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                            @tanavit > is pretty well known and : is a shell built-in similar to true, it's just the combination of the two that's uncommon

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                            @rebane2001

                            Thanks.

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                            • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                              @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                              Id assume it works without?

                              Im guessing
                              : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                              @ChaosKitsune it's a bash builtin
                              $ help :
                              :: :
                              Null command.

                              No effect; the command does nothing.

                              Exit Status:
                              Always succeeds.

                              @rebane2001

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                              • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                                @cenobyte @rebane2001 I usually just use truncate or echo "" > whatever but this is a lot more terse. I like it.

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                                @draeath @cenobyte @rebane2001

                                With echo "" you don't make an empty file though. It's a file with one octet (newline) then.

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                                • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                  @draeath @cenobyte @rebane2001

                                  With echo "" you don't make an empty file though. It's a file with one octet (newline) then.

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                                  @project1enigma @cenobyte @rebane2001 true unless you pass the argument not to add that... But at that point things are getting silly and there's definitely better ways. But in most of the things I work with, a truly empty file and a file with only a newline in it are close enough to equivalent.

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                                  • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                                    @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                                    Id assume it works without?

                                    Im guessing
                                    : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                                    @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 : is the null command in the POSIX shell standard. It's a built-in that outputs nothing and exits immediately with a status of zero (effectively the same as /bin/true).

                                    So the shell parses ':> afile' as "null command with output redirected to afile"

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                                    • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                                      in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                                      the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                                      @rebane2001 the everpresent word snatcher is real...

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                                      • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                                        in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                                        the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                                        @rebane2001 i would draw this if i had the energy to do so and also the art skills to draw that well enough to not have my perfectionist brain tear into me

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