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  3. in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

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  • dakkar@s.thenautilus.netD dakkar@s.thenautilus.net

    @ChaosKitsune@woem.men https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html#index-_003a

    the colon is a shell command that does nothing

    it's often used to perform expansions with side-effects, like:

    : ${ARGUMENT:=default value}
    : ${MUST_BE_SET:?error message}


    @rebane2001@infosec.exchange

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    @dakkar @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 also infinite cycles:

    while :
    do
    <whatever>
    Done

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    • cenobyte@mastodon.thirring.orgC cenobyte@mastodon.thirring.org

      @rebane2001 This is awesome for clearing out files. Some log files when you're trying to isolate. Love learning new commands. Thank you!

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      @cenobyte @rebane2001 I usually just use truncate or echo "" > whatever but this is a lot more terse. I like it.

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      • jcpandrade@mastodon.socialJ jcpandrade@mastodon.social

        @dakkar @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 also infinite cycles:

        while :
        do
        <whatever>
        Done

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        @jcpandrade@mastodon.social ha! I tend to do while true because it reads better to me
        (yes, I know that involves a fork+exec, but if we cared about speed we wouldn't be writing shell)
        @ChaosKitsune@woem.men @rebane2001@infosec.exchange

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        • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

          @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

          Id assume it works without?

          Im guessing
          : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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          @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 : is a no-op with no output, which is then redirected to the file.
          See: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3224878/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-colon-gnu-bash-builtin

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          • dakkar@s.thenautilus.netD dakkar@s.thenautilus.net

            @jcpandrade@mastodon.social ha! I tend to do while true because it reads better to me
            (yes, I know that involves a fork+exec, but if we cared about speed we wouldn't be writing shell)
            @ChaosKitsune@woem.men @rebane2001@infosec.exchange

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            @dakkar I used the true but... : is faster and easier to type... Just being lazy, I admit. @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001

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            • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

              in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

              the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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              @rebane2001 The nice bird is named sudo rm -rf /
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              • benjaoming@social.data.coopB benjaoming@social.data.coop

                @rebane2001 it doesn't eat worms `~` โ“

                ```
                $ ๐Ÿ˜† ~
                bash: /home/user: Is a directory
                ```

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                @benjaoming @rebane2001
                ๐Ÿ˜† ./~

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                • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                  in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                  the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                  @rebane2001 It's a cool fact

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                  • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                    @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                    Id assume it works without?

                    Im guessing
                    : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                    @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001

                    ':' returns 0 (meaning true). I just checked and '>' clears the file with no input. So, yes, the ':' is just decorative.

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                    • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                      in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                      the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                      @rebane2001 :3

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                      • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                        in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                        the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                        @rebane2001 New "Press Alt+F4 to win" just dropped.

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                        • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                          in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                          the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                          @rebane2001 @astraluma

                          Thanks! Iโ€™ve learned AND cemented ๐Ÿ˜† as evil bird

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                          • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                            in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                            the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                            @rebane2001

                            Very interesting. Never seen it in a long life of use of Unix.

                            Is there a "cheat sheet" of other unknown - at least by me ๐Ÿ™‚ - such "wild" characters for file redirection ?

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                            • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                              @rebane2001

                              Very interesting. Never seen it in a long life of use of Unix.

                              Is there a "cheat sheet" of other unknown - at least by me ๐Ÿ™‚ - such "wild" characters for file redirection ?

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                              @tanavit > is pretty well known and : is a shell built-in similar to true, it's just the combination of the two that's uncommon

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                              • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                                @tanavit > is pretty well known and : is a shell built-in similar to true, it's just the combination of the two that's uncommon

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                                @rebane2001

                                Thanks.

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                                • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                                  @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                                  Id assume it works without?

                                  Im guessing
                                  : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                                  @ChaosKitsune it's a bash builtin
                                  $ help :
                                  :: :
                                  Null command.

                                  No effect; the command does nothing.

                                  Exit Status:
                                  Always succeeds.

                                  @rebane2001

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                                  • draeath@infosec.exchangeD draeath@infosec.exchange

                                    @cenobyte @rebane2001 I usually just use truncate or echo "" > whatever but this is a lot more terse. I like it.

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                                    @draeath @cenobyte @rebane2001

                                    With echo "" you don't make an empty file though. It's a file with one octet (newline) then.

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                                    • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                      @draeath @cenobyte @rebane2001

                                      With echo "" you don't make an empty file though. It's a file with one octet (newline) then.

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                                      @project1enigma @cenobyte @rebane2001 true unless you pass the argument not to add that... But at that point things are getting silly and there's definitely better ways. But in most of the things I work with, a truly empty file and a file with only a newline in it are close enough to equivalent.

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                                      • chaoskitsune@woem.menC chaoskitsune@woem.men

                                        @rebane2001@infosec.exchange hmm I suppose thats because its writing nothing into the file but I dont understand the reason for the : (I mean yeah it does make the face but from a commands perspective I mean)

                                        Id assume it works without?

                                        Im guessing
                                        : is ignored or perhaps written into the file?

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                                        @ChaosKitsune @rebane2001 : is the null command in the POSIX shell standard. It's a built-in that outputs nothing and exits immediately with a status of zero (effectively the same as /bin/true).

                                        So the shell parses ':> afile' as "null command with output redirected to afile"

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                                        • rebane2001@infosec.exchangeR rebane2001@infosec.exchange

                                          in linux you can use the evil bird emoticon (:>) to destroy files, eg `:> important_document.txt`

                                          the bird will eat the file and leave it completely empty!

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                                          @rebane2001 the everpresent word snatcher is real...

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