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Genuine question: why is there not more of a movement to get rid of Trump in the US?

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  • inquiline@assemblag.esI inquiline@assemblag.es

    @pvonhellermannn

    a descriptive answer, not an endorsement: a lot of people disapprove of this war but "starting wars" is "just something the US does" and i don't see that alone as tipping the scales for him, tho i believe fallout will mount

    there have been mass protests. mass civil disobedience is more elusive. IMO a lot of people (def congress, who are bought & paid for) are waiting for midterms, without confronting that the "normal" political system can't unwind this, it delivered this

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    @inquiline thank you! All this makes a lot of sense. And apologies for completely missing the protests!

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    • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

      @pvonhellermannn There has already been the largest mass protest in US history, covering all 50 states, and this will be happening again this coming Saturday. A better question might be, how come so many people haven't even heard about the growing US resistance movement?

      Trump can't be impeached at present because the Republicans control all branches of government.

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      @ApostateEnglishman Yes, was just replying this to someone else who pointed out that there have actually been mass protests: I completely missed them. Apologies for this! But as you say, that’s notable in itself. I have seen nothing at all here (could be my fault for not searching) or anywhere else

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      • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

        @pvonhellermannn There has already been the largest mass protest in US history, covering all 50 states, and this will be happening again this coming Saturday. A better question might be, how come so many people haven't even heard about the growing US resistance movement?

        Trump can't be impeached at present because the Republicans control all branches of government.

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        @ApostateEnglishman @pvonhellermannn ...and he is still of use to them

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        • pvonhellermannn@mastodon.greenP pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

          Genuine question: why is there not more of a movement to get rid of Trump in the US? Why is it not possible to impeach him? Will there be mass protest at any point? #Trump #IranWar

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          @pvonhellermannn To the best of my understanding:

          I Roughly 25% of the American population are Evangelicals and one of the largest Trump supporter groups.

          II We saw mass protests already. We witnessed Trump deploying ICE. He would not hesitate to deploy more and even harder hitting.

          III As for impeachment, the setup is there to protect the presidency. A. Johnson impeached & acquitted, B. Clinton imp & acq, D. Trump imp & acq fucking twice!

          etc.

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          • pvonhellermannn@mastodon.greenP pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

            Genuine question: why is there not more of a movement to get rid of Trump in the US? Why is it not possible to impeach him? Will there be mass protest at any point? #Trump #IranWar

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            @pvonhellermannn because white supremacist capitalist cisheteropatriarchy gave rise to the whole situation

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            • jackie@deadinsi.deJ jackie@deadinsi.de

              @pvonhellermannn because white supremacist capitalist cisheteropatriarchy gave rise to the whole situation

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              @pvonhellermannn more information: https://archive.org/details/blackpowerpoliti0000carm

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              • uhege@nrw.socialU uhege@nrw.social

                @pvonhellermannn
                It's hard to get rid of a 'Jesus'

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                @Uhege @pvonhellermannn it wasn’t very hard. As far as I understand Easter.

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                • pvonhellermannn@mastodon.greenP pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                  @inquiline thank you! All this makes a lot of sense. And apologies for completely missing the protests!

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                  @pvonhellermannn @inquiline watch for the next big one on 28/3. And follow @heidilifeldman here. There are more

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                  • pvonhellermannn@mastodon.greenP pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                    @ApostateEnglishman Yes, was just replying this to someone else who pointed out that there have actually been mass protests: I completely missed them. Apologies for this! But as you say, that’s notable in itself. I have seen nothing at all here (could be my fault for not searching) or anywhere else

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                    @pvonhellermannn @ApostateEnglishman it is covered on Dutch main stream news. Not where you live??

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                    • lindarosesmit@mastodon.socialL lindarosesmit@mastodon.social

                      @pvonhellermannn @ApostateEnglishman it is covered on Dutch main stream news. Not where you live??

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                      @lindarosesmit @ApostateEnglishman as i said: my own fault.

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                      • U unknowable@troet.cafe

                        @pvonhellermannn To the best of my understanding:

                        I Roughly 25% of the American population are Evangelicals and one of the largest Trump supporter groups.

                        II We saw mass protests already. We witnessed Trump deploying ICE. He would not hesitate to deploy more and even harder hitting.

                        III As for impeachment, the setup is there to protect the presidency. A. Johnson impeached & acquitted, B. Clinton imp & acq, D. Trump imp & acq fucking twice!

                        etc.

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                        @pvonhellermannn P.S. crystal ball on: Northstream 2 opens again!

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                        • pvonhellermannn@mastodon.greenP pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                          Genuine question: why is there not more of a movement to get rid of Trump in the US? Why is it not possible to impeach him? Will there be mass protest at any point? #Trump #IranWar

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                          @pvonhellermannn don’t they try and fail at this already then put him back in office?

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                          • justincrozer@mastodon.greenJ justincrozer@mastodon.green

                            @pvonhellermannn don’t they try and fail at this already then put him back in office?

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                            @justincrozer Yes - I realise i was unclear. I meant: since Trump started the Iran war.

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