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  • partim@social.tchncs.deP partim@social.tchncs.de

    @jon The 11:51 Eurostar goes to Liège. Maybe you can beg your way around the transfer in Brussels.

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    @partim That's the only hope I think! But it is sold out... Let's see how forgiving they are of a problem SNCF caused!

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Meanwhile I am sort of moving past Sens, adding extra delay

      Does SNCF possibly think we might want to know what the hell is going on?

      No! That would be far too much effort!

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      @jon you assume the SNCF knows what is going on 🙂

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Meanwhile I am sort of moving past Sens, adding extra delay

        Does SNCF possibly think we might want to know what the hell is going on?

        No! That would be far too much effort!

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        @jon kann das sein, dass sie,als,Staatsbahn den Kunden*Service nicht so ernst nimmt?

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        • bovine3dom@masto.aiB bovine3dom@masto.ai

          @jon you assume the SNCF knows what is going on 🙂

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          @bovine3dom Based on what I have just seen, they knew *precisely* what was going on. Run on sight past Sens and the accident site just north of it, and then run normally. Which they could have communicated!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @bovine3dom Based on what I have just seen, they knew *precisely* what was going on. Run on sight past Sens and the accident site just north of it, and then run normally. Which they could have communicated!

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            @jon I've read enough regulator reports to know that SNCF trains often run on sight past accidents because the driver realised it would be insane not to rather than because they have been told to do anything

            but I do agree the SNCF is terrible at communicating what it does know.

            Yesterday there were works on Transilien past Melun. RATP claimed no trains were running. SNCF claimed trains were running, but each train had a warning saying no trains were running. Au final il y avait des trains...

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @partim That's the only hope I think! But it is sold out... Let's see how forgiving they are of a problem SNCF caused!

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              @jon @partim
              🤞

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Meanwhile I am sort of moving past Sens, adding extra delay

                Does SNCF possibly think we might want to know what the hell is going on?

                No! That would be far too much effort!

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                And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                  COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                  I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                  But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                  My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                  @jon or even just setting up camp on the floor. I’ve done that when desperate to get somewhere or when Avantis service fell apart.

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                  • technicalotter@glammr.usT technicalotter@glammr.us

                    @jon or even just setting up camp on the floor. I’ve done that when desperate to get somewhere or when Avantis service fell apart.

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                    @technicalotter @jon Yeah, just sit on the floor like it's Germany.

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                      @cycling_on_rails i am a hopeless optimist 😞

                      i think they would at least have to write down somewhere that standing up is a breach of safety and then the senat could come back angrily and abolish the SNCF and we would all live happily ever after

                      technicolour eurostars yeah could be exempt. but it's a good precedent for getting it transposed into EU law...

                      @jon

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @partim Now just left Sens. Eurostar to BXL, IC to Liege, then Drielanden to Maastricht.

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                        @jon @partim Est-ce que ceci à du sens ?

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                          COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                          I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                          But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                          My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                          @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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                          • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                            @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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                            @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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                            • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                              @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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                              @footils why do you matter? You’re a passenger. The railway would work better without you!

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                                COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                                I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                                But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                                My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                                Finally close to Paris.

                                2 hours 30 mins late, for no fault of my own.

                                And I’ve got no idea if or when I can continue my journey towards Maastricht. 11:51 from Nord, ideally, but contingent on a friendly train manager…

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                                • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                                  @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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                                  @footils Right. Exactly. DB’s attitude is better at least.

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                                  • j2@tldr.nettime.orgJ j2@tldr.nettime.org

                                    @technicalotter @jon Yeah, just sit on the floor like it's Germany.

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                                    @J2 average northern rail experience

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                                      COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                                      I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                                      But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                                      My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                                      @jon At some point it does become miserable - when people can't even get to their assigned seats or to the toilets/catering. But that's the British railway experience where any disruption gives you the "it's 1975 and this is the last helicopter out of Saigon" experience

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                                        COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                                        I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                                        But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                                        My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

                                        katti@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @jon but still there‘s heaps of people in countries Like Germany asking for compulsory reservations…

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                                        • flangey@chaos.socialF flangey@chaos.social

                                          @jon At some point it does become miserable - when people can't even get to their assigned seats or to the toilets/catering. But that's the British railway experience where any disruption gives you the "it's 1975 and this is the last helicopter out of Saigon" experience

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                                          @flangey Sure. But how many passengers from Laroche Migennes need a Eurostar to Liege? I agree there’s a limit, but a few can work!

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