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So I’m stuck.

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    And it is at moments like this that you realise that

    COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

    I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

    But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

    My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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    technicalotter@glammr.us
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    @jon or even just setting up camp on the floor. I’ve done that when desperate to get somewhere or when Avantis service fell apart.

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    • technicalotter@glammr.usT technicalotter@glammr.us

      @jon or even just setting up camp on the floor. I’ve done that when desperate to get somewhere or when Avantis service fell apart.

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      @technicalotter @jon Yeah, just sit on the floor like it's Germany.

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        @cycling_on_rails i am a hopeless optimist 😞

        i think they would at least have to write down somewhere that standing up is a breach of safety and then the senat could come back angrily and abolish the SNCF and we would all live happily ever after

        technicolour eurostars yeah could be exempt. but it's a good precedent for getting it transposed into EU law...

        @jon

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          @partim Now just left Sens. Eurostar to BXL, IC to Liege, then Drielanden to Maastricht.

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          @jon @partim Est-ce que ceci à du sens ?

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            And it is at moments like this that you realise that

            COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

            I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

            But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

            My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

            footils@social.cologneF This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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            • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

              @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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              @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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              • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                @jon I once had to wait two additional hours in Paris when going from Cologne to Rouen: After the Eurostar to Paris broke and I already had hours delay SNCF didn't let me onto the connecting train to Rouen in St Lazare because I didn't have the printed "Hop on the next train" paper required for this. it forced me to go back to Gare du Nord to get the HOTNT from Eurostar. Thanks for nothing

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                @footils why do you matter? You’re a passenger. The railway would work better without you!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                  COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                  I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                  But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                  My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

                  jon@gruene.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #39

                  Finally close to Paris.

                  2 hours 30 mins late, for no fault of my own.

                  And I’ve got no idea if or when I can continue my journey towards Maastricht. 11:51 from Nord, ideally, but contingent on a friendly train manager…

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                  • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                    @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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                    @footils Right. Exactly. DB’s attitude is better at least.

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                    • j2@tldr.nettime.orgJ j2@tldr.nettime.org

                      @technicalotter @jon Yeah, just sit on the floor like it's Germany.

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                      @J2 average northern rail experience

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                        COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                        I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                        But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                        My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

                        flangey@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @jon At some point it does become miserable - when people can't even get to their assigned seats or to the toilets/catering. But that's the British railway experience where any disruption gives you the "it's 1975 and this is the last helicopter out of Saigon" experience

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                          COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                          I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                          But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                          My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                          @jon but still there‘s heaps of people in countries Like Germany asking for compulsory reservations…

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                          • flangey@chaos.socialF flangey@chaos.social

                            @jon At some point it does become miserable - when people can't even get to their assigned seats or to the toilets/catering. But that's the British railway experience where any disruption gives you the "it's 1975 and this is the last helicopter out of Saigon" experience

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                            @flangey Sure. But how many passengers from Laroche Migennes need a Eurostar to Liege? I agree there’s a limit, but a few can work!

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Finally close to Paris.

                              2 hours 30 mins late, for no fault of my own.

                              And I’ve got no idea if or when I can continue my journey towards Maastricht. 11:51 from Nord, ideally, but contingent on a friendly train manager…

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                              The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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                                @jon But you're right, having to rely on the courtesy of train staff is a terrible position to be in. That's what makes people take their car instead.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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                                  Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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                                    @jon this is why I say we should never book a train ticket, but buy a train ticket.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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                                      I tried the ticket office for Eurostar first. But there were 3 desks open and a crazy queue. That would not have worked. #CrossBorderRail

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        I tried the ticket office for Eurostar first. But there were 3 desks open and a crazy queue. That would not have worked. #CrossBorderRail

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                                        @jon I was told at the ticket desk in Paris that I would need to talk to the train manager, after waiting for 15 minutes

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                                        • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                                          @jon I was told at the ticket desk in Paris that I would need to talk to the train manager, after waiting for 15 minutes

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                                          @webhat the problem is you can’t always get to the train manager! But yes, if you can it’s the best - for Eurostar. They have more power than SNCF ones.

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