I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

[mttaggart@infosec.exchange]

@admin I would separate marketing hype from product reality. Again, optional modules and nothing doing in self-hosted.

[cos@sauna.social]

@mttaggart for example etke.cc offers a public draupnir instance: https://etke.cc/help/bots/draupnir/
That combined with good policy lists should be quite good against spam. Of course targeted attacks are harder to block.

Also I think I heard that in FOSDEM Element said that there will be some kind of server chooser at last.. IMO using matrix.org as default has been a bad choice. Of course a curated list of servers makes a handful of new problems.

Currently a list of open servers can be found at https://servers.joinmatrix.org/

[leberschnitzel@existiert.ch]

@mttaggart that actually looks like one of the best options you posted so far, have to look into that one!

[hackillu@mas.to]

@mttaggart Nice! I thought about discord alternatives too!

[maswan@mastodon.acc.sunet.se]

@mttaggart FWIW, we've been using rocketchat for years at work with about 100 users and we haven't missed any of the paid features yet. The biggest downside is how hard they push you towards their "plans".

[cogdog@cosocial.ca]

@mttaggart You had me (discourse mangler/wrangler) at the opening meme.

Be more distracted.

[32x33@mastodon.sprawl.club]

@murdoccc We miss you too, bro!

[pavelasamsonov@mastodon.social]

@mttaggart Huh, Stoat is that bad? It's the one I'm seeing people recommend.

[agreeable_landfall@mastodon.social]

@mttaggart @janeishly I've never understood why people like Discord. I've always just used Jitsi. Simple, and FOSS licensed, so I can run it on my own server. You need to be careful with security, but I usually just start it up and shut it down as needed.

[resuna@ohai.social]

@mttaggart

If Discord gets a 4/5 for functionality then something is fucked up, it's an appallingly bad piece of software that gets in the way more than anything else. It's a disaster.

I would rather use phpBB and an IRC server for chat.

[codinghorror@infosec.exchange]

@mttaggart I am in this picture AND I LIKE IT p.s. https://blog.codinghorror.com/launching-the-rural-guaranteed-minimum-income-initiative/

[airakose@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@mttaggart one major concern I have with Discourse is how loudly pro-AI they are. Billing OpenAI as a major customer, pushing for "AI leaders", and their AI bot integration

That's probably worth reevaluating their security over

[mttaggart@infosec.exchange]

@airakose My instance has no AI to speak of. I don't really see how one implies the other.