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I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

    @cos

    The CSAM attacks happened, but moderation tools have taken a big leap since.

    I would appreciate links to these new resources. Last I saw, Draupnir was still very much inadequate.

    As for server choice, I think Mastodon itself is evidence of what a fussy server selection process can do to adoption.

    This reply is written from the perspective of a computer enthusiast. Probably a volunteer sysadmin/self hoster—like me. We cannot be the target for a general alternative.

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    @mttaggart for example etke.cc offers a public draupnir instance: https://etke.cc/help/bots/draupnir/
    That combined with good policy lists should be quite good against spam. Of course targeted attacks are harder to block.

    Also I think I heard that in FOSDEM Element said that there will be some kind of server chooser at last.. IMO using matrix.org as default has been a bad choice. Of course a curated list of servers makes a handful of new problems.

    Currently a list of open servers can be found at https://servers.joinmatrix.org/

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      Since I wrote this, many have introduced me to movim, and it's pretty slick! I'm still experimenting, but I like a lot of what I see. Still missing moderation tools for groups, though.

      Link Preview Image
      Movim – Responsive web-based cross-platform XMPP client

      Movim is a kickass distributed blogging and messaging platform built on the industry-standard XMPP protocol

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      (movim.eu)

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      @mttaggart that actually looks like one of the best options you posted so far, have to look into that one!

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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        #36

        @mttaggart Nice! I thought about discord alternatives too!

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        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

          I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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          @mttaggart FWIW, we've been using rocketchat for years at work with about 100 users and we haven't missed any of the paid features yet. The biggest downside is how hard they push you towards their "plans".

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          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

            I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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            @mttaggart You had me (discourse mangler/wrangler) at the opening meme.

            Be more distracted.

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            • murdoccc@infosec.exchangeM murdoccc@infosec.exchange

              @32x33 I miss the CrankySec community, but I really don't miss Discord.

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              @murdoccc We miss you too, bro!

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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                @mttaggart Huh, Stoat is that bad? It's the one I'm seeing people recommend.

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                • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                  I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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                  @mttaggart @janeishly I've never understood why people like Discord. I've always just used Jitsi. Simple, and FOSS licensed, so I can run it on my own server. You need to be careful with security, but I usually just start it up and shut it down as needed.

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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                    @mttaggart

                    If Discord gets a 4/5 for functionality then something is fucked up, it's an appallingly bad piece of software that gets in the way more than anything else. It's a disaster.

                    I would rather use phpBB and an IRC server for chat.

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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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                      @mttaggart I am in this picture AND I LIKE IT 😘💛 p.s. https://blog.codinghorror.com/launching-the-rural-guaranteed-minimum-income-initiative/

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                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                        I see it's once again time to post this: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives

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                        @mttaggart one major concern I have with Discourse is how loudly pro-AI they are. Billing OpenAI as a major customer, pushing for "AI leaders", and their AI bot integration

                        That's probably worth reevaluating their security over

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                        • airakose@mastodon.gamedev.placeA airakose@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @mttaggart one major concern I have with Discourse is how loudly pro-AI they are. Billing OpenAI as a major customer, pushing for "AI leaders", and their AI bot integration

                          That's probably worth reevaluating their security over

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                          @airakose My instance has no AI to speak of. I don't really see how one implies the other.

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