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Stop calling things degenerate.

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  • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

    @BathysphereHat What's your take on self-identifying as a degenerate? /gen

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    @SymTrkl So like, in theory, I think reclamation of "degenerate" could be possible at some point. But I'm not terribly comfortable with it now, even if it's done in a positive way by people who the term is used against, because the general public is so uneducated about its origins and implications. I worry that when people call themselves degenerates, it's just contributing to the normalisation and spread of the term, even when the people reclaiming it know its history.

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    • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

      @SymTrkl So like, in theory, I think reclamation of "degenerate" could be possible at some point. But I'm not terribly comfortable with it now, even if it's done in a positive way by people who the term is used against, because the general public is so uneducated about its origins and implications. I worry that when people call themselves degenerates, it's just contributing to the normalisation and spread of the term, even when the people reclaiming it know its history.

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      @SymTrkl Like, spreading Nazi terminology is part of how fascist ideas get laundered, and I think even the most well meaning and educated person can contribute to that without meaning to.

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      • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

        @SymTrkl Like, spreading Nazi terminology is part of how fascist ideas get laundered, and I think even the most well meaning and educated person can contribute to that without meaning to.

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        @BathysphereHat Yeah, I get that. Especially how this stuff gets laundered through people who don't know any better. (Ask me about "derp" if you want to see swear words.)

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        • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

          @SymTrkl Like, spreading Nazi terminology is part of how fascist ideas get laundered, and I think even the most well meaning and educated person can contribute to that without meaning to.

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          @BathysphereHat @SymTrkl i call myself that in the full sense that the Nazis used it. Im a person thats despicable to Nazis, that they want to eradicate, i try to be anathema to the Volksgemeinschaft and i take pride in that. But i can see your argument.

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          • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

            @BathysphereHat Yeah, I get that. Especially how this stuff gets laundered through people who don't know any better. (Ask me about "derp" if you want to see swear words.)

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            @SymTrkl @BathysphereHat

            Me who uses derp ALL THE TIME staring at this with suspicion and horror.

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            • roseraven@eldritch.cafeR roseraven@eldritch.cafe

              @SymTrkl @BathysphereHat

              Me who uses derp ALL THE TIME staring at this with suspicion and horror.

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              @RoseRaven I mean I've already told you it's an ableist 4chan-ism, I'm not gonna be a cop about it if you keep using it.
              @BathysphereHat

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              • symtrkl@merping.synth.downloadS symtrkl@merping.synth.download

                @RoseRaven I mean I've already told you it's an ableist 4chan-ism, I'm not gonna be a cop about it if you keep using it.
                @BathysphereHat

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                @SymTrkl @BathysphereHat

                bother.

                you have

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                • roseraven@eldritch.cafeR roseraven@eldritch.cafe

                  @SymTrkl @BathysphereHat

                  bother.

                  you have

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                  @SymTrkl @BathysphereHat

                  I need to remember to replace derp with bleh and blah.

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                  • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

                    Stop calling things degenerate. You're saying Nazi shit.

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                    • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

                      Regardless of your position on AI, you really, really don't need to say Nazi shit.

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                      A citation, for anyone who needs it. There are more sources on Nazi use of the term "degenerate", but this is a starting point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

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                      • bathyspherehat@mastodon.onlineB bathyspherehat@mastodon.online

                        A citation, for anyone who needs it. There are more sources on Nazi use of the term "degenerate", but this is a starting point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art

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                        I actually blocked the person who asked for this, but that's because they were an asshole about it.

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