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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @electropict @urlyman @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

    i don't really like this graph. there's other dimensions of ideology. but what use is a 16 dimensional graph? and even then "you're forgetting the ideological divides of a,b,c,d,e,f..." so then you have a 738 dimensional graph. and even then...

    left and right is fine

    because that's the usual political axis across which people think. it's extremely rough, but we can't capture ideology this way so the approximation of 1 dimension is fine

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    #76

    @benroyce @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

    All models are wrong but some are useful. And this one usefully shows a significant distance between where people place themselves and the positions taken by the representatives they vote for. Irrespective of values, that’s concerning

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    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

      @benroyce @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

      All models are wrong but some are useful. And this one usefully shows a significant distance between where people place themselves and the positions taken by the representatives they vote for. Irrespective of values, that’s concerning

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      @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

      to be honest with you what i'm really saying is i resent the authoritarian - libertarian axis

      1. libertarianism (in the usa) is not social libertarianism it's right wing economic libertarianism. useful fools for plutocrats since less economic control means the rich win

      2. i don't believe in an authoritarian left. yes it's a thing but i see only fascists who haven't fully worked out the contradictions in their thinking. tankies suck

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      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

        💗 Schengen

        “Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.”

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        #78

        Sometimes in mid 1980s as teenager I was sking in Lapland. We made a trip to where borders of Finland, Sweden and Norway meet. I decided to make quick Nordics tour and clocked 12 seconds to go around the border marker with skis.
        It was very different as the place where I had spent most of my summers was close to the border with Soviet Union. Heavily guarded hostile border then and now.
        #borders
        @fj

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        • cannaparts@nrw.socialC cannaparts@nrw.social

          @stf

          Belgium has plenty crazy "borders" in the east, too - exclaves and enclaves with Germany - 1st & 2nd WorldWar related...

          On the pic you can run/walk Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands also within a second.

          It's a nice place to visit and btw. the highest point of continental Netherland (322m above sea level) - 30km south is Belgiums highest point with 694m

          @fj

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          @CannaParts @stf @fj

          How about a carousel instead of or around that stone pillar?

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          • mrtnsnp@mastodon.socialM mrtnsnp@mastodon.social

            @fj @herbert_tiemens If we estimate the length of the swing at 2.5 meters, then the period of the swing is 3.17 seconds, so the back-and-forth is 18.9 times per minute.

            Did you try it, or did you calculate it?

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            @mrtnsnp It's a quote from the article

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

              Me neither but this map of it has stayed with me https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/114437610906205685

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              @urlyman @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj And where is Labour in 2026?

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              • mdione@en.osm.townM mdione@en.osm.town

                @ticho @Provincial @fj talking about OpenStreetMap, someone has already mapped it 🙂

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                (www.openstreetmap.org)

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                @mdione

                That was the first thing I wanted to know when I saw this 😍😄

                @ticho @Provincial @fj

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                • klara@drupal.communityK klara@drupal.community

                  @urlyman @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj And where is Labour in 2026?

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                  @Klara @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                  Indeed

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                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                    💗 Schengen

                    “Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.”

                    Link Preview Image
                    Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

                    Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

                    favicon

                    The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)

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                    #84

                    @fj What a poetic installation!

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                    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                      💗 Schengen

                      “Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.”

                      Link Preview Image
                      Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

                      Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

                      favicon

                      The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)

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                      #85

                      @fj This is how borders should look like! ❤ ❤ ❤
                      That this exists makes me deeply happy! :'3

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                      • artharg@mastodon.nlA artharg@mastodon.nl

                        @fj Imagine how it used to be!

                        “Passport please”
                        “Passport please”
                        “Passport please”
                        “Passport please”
                        “Passport please”
                        “Passport please”

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                        #86

                        @ArtHarg @fj It's between Netherlands and Belgium, not between either and Germany

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                        • diver300@mastodon.socialD diver300@mastodon.social

                          @fj I do hope that anyone who uses the swing isn't going to need to mention every visit to a foreign country on something like the US immigration form.

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                          @diver300 @fj "ask NSA, they should have satellite images, let AI count the crossings"

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                          • alterelefant@mastodontech.deA alterelefant@mastodontech.de

                            @fj
                            Does anyone know if swing safety regulations are harmonised in the Benelux countries?

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                            @alterelefant @fj if not this incident will probably lead to the EU creating a new commissioner for harmonising safty regulations of border swings

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                              to be honest with you what i'm really saying is i resent the authoritarian - libertarian axis

                              1. libertarianism (in the usa) is not social libertarianism it's right wing economic libertarianism. useful fools for plutocrats since less economic control means the rich win

                              2. i don't believe in an authoritarian left. yes it's a thing but i see only fascists who haven't fully worked out the contradictions in their thinking. tankies suck

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                              @benroyce

                              Eysenck used the terms 'tenderminded' and 'toughminded' in place of libertarian/authoritarian if that helps?

                              @urlyman @electropict @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                              • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                @CannaParts @stf @fj

                                How about a carousel instead of or around that stone pillar?

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                                @project1enigma @CannaParts @stf @fj Exactly what I though. What do you think, can we create a movement that will install carousels on each Schengen Area three countries meeting point? Could use a slogan like "freedom all around"

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                                • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce

                                  If the UK held a second referendum on rejoining the EU tomorrow then 'Rejoin' would win, but the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away and their reasons for leaving the EU haven't changed.


                                  @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                                  @ReggieHere @benroyce @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj wait just a few more years and their funding from Moscow will have dried up.

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                                  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                    💗 Schengen

                                    “Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.”

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                                    Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

                                    Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

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                                    @fj In 2020 I just made a small cross country tour to the Czech-German-Austrian Border.
                                    I know the times in the past when it was impossible to go spontaneously to Czechslovakia (CSSR).

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                                    • benny@kirche.socialB benny@kirche.social

                                      @ReggieHere @benroyce @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj wait just a few more years and their funding from Moscow will have dried up.

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                                      @benny

                                      Fingers crossed.

                                      I can't help wondering whether Orwell's world map in 1984 is becoming a reality....

                                      @benroyce @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                        to be honest with you what i'm really saying is i resent the authoritarian - libertarian axis

                                        1. libertarianism (in the usa) is not social libertarianism it's right wing economic libertarianism. useful fools for plutocrats since less economic control means the rich win

                                        2. i don't believe in an authoritarian left. yes it's a thing but i see only fascists who haven't fully worked out the contradictions in their thinking. tankies suck

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                                        @benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                        We have local, Welsh and Scottish elections here on May 7. I got a leaflet from the Independent Socialist candidate for my Scottish constituency. It's full of the usual things you might expect, but clearly also pro-Russian.

                                        Ukraine can't win and 'the Russian threat isn't credible' (in bold). We should 'negotiate a non-aggression pact with Russia. Buy cheap Russian energy.'

                                        Definitely tankie. I'm voting SNP1, Green2.

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                                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                          @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                          Me neither but this map of it has stayed with me https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/114437610906205685

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                                          @urlyman @benroyce

                                          Wow. 😳
                                          Does anyone know if such a mapping exists for #Deutschland #Parteien #Wähler_innen?

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