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Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

    During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

    This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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    @randahl Putin is frightened and is hunkering down

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

      During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

      This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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      @randahl, who cares what happens to orcs?

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      • rudolfsciemins@toot.lvR rudolfsciemins@toot.lv

        @randahl, who cares what happens to orcs?

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        @rudolfsciemins @randahl

        i have 100s of comments hating on the govt of russia, putin, the kremlin

        but i'm careful not to demonize regular russians, because yes, while many of them are loser assholes who support the stupid ethnofascist war on ukraine, many are not

        and thus, not as some high minded moral principle, but simply as a matter of good tactics and strategy, we don't demonize all russians, simply because if putin is to be overthrown, it will be regular russians doing it

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

          During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

          This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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          @randahl

          Seems incongruous to decry police-state behavior in a police-state with your face visible. Video looks real but, I wonder.

          I can definitely see something like this coming to the USA.

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          • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

            @randahl
            We don't need to do this, because unless you are using a prepaid SIM - and never had a subscription SIM in the same phone, Danish and European authorities already have that information.

            Did you notice how getting a prepaid SIM became a lot harder a few years ago? I used to have a prepaid SIM that I paid 99,- for per year, and now I'm paying 79,- per month for pretty much the same use, simply because prepaid became too cumbersome.

            Russia presumably have a lot more people using prepaid SIMs, so they can't get the information via the phone company.

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            @leeloo @randahl 79 Eur per month seems insanely expensive.

            Edit: My bad, i'm guessing it's DKK not Eur

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

              During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

              This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

              eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @randahl Has been for over a hundred years. Putin just managed to make it even worse.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                @randahl Are you sure the IMEI can tell them what the phone is doing on the internet? I've never heard that before, and I just looked it up and it doesn't seem to be true. All it can tell them is the phone's location.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                  During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                  This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                  @randahl
                  It's only a different way than in other countries. It happens everywhere.
                  So nothing new or surprising.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                    During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                    This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                    @randahl the f**k is that? I meant the police or whatever doing that, not the number.

                    In 🇺🇸 the IT companies inform the government, for a fee.

                    The whole world is 1984. Idk which country/government is absolutely free for being monitored. 🇩🇪? 🇫🇷?

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                      During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                      This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                      @randahl Серьёзно? Наверное я живу в параллельной вселенной, где ничего подобного не происходит. Но зато в моей вселенной в мирных русских городах гибнут мирные люди от оружия, которое поставляет НАТО террористам. И эта кровь вопиет к небу.

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                      • epistomai@mastodon.socialE epistomai@mastodon.social

                        @randahl the f**k is that? I meant the police or whatever doing that, not the number.

                        In 🇺🇸 the IT companies inform the government, for a fee.

                        The whole world is 1984. Idk which country/government is absolutely free for being monitored. 🇩🇪? 🇫🇷?

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                        @epistomai Not Denmark, I know that much. We have cameras in the cities and it is illegal to cover your face. Dystopian.

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                        • cosmiccactus@mastodon.socialC cosmiccactus@mastodon.social

                          @leeloo @randahl 79 Eur per month seems insanely expensive.

                          Edit: My bad, i'm guessing it's DKK not Eur

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                          @CosmicCactus
                          About 10 EUR.

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                            @Ex_spurt @randahl Yeah, this. Though it's interesting to see it happening in meat space, instead of virtually through telco sharing.

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                            • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                              @randahl
                              We don't need to do this, because unless you are using a prepaid SIM - and never had a subscription SIM in the same phone, Danish and European authorities already have that information.

                              Did you notice how getting a prepaid SIM became a lot harder a few years ago? I used to have a prepaid SIM that I paid 99,- for per year, and now I'm paying 79,- per month for pretty much the same use, simply because prepaid became too cumbersome.

                              Russia presumably have a lot more people using prepaid SIMs, so they can't get the information via the phone company.

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                              @leeloo
                              It's impossible to get anonymous SIMs in the EU. And I doubt that it's possible in Russia.
                              @randahl

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                                @randahl There are 1,808,100 prisoners in prisons in the USA and 433,006 in Russia. Thank you for reminding me what demagoguery is.

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                                List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                  During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                  This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                                  fuzzyfuzzyfungus@cyberplace.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @randahl I'm morbidly curious if this actually means that there are results that data wonks with access to telco-provided data aren't getting them(since there's basically no difference between 'using a cellphone' and 'bleeding metadata to the carrier' and carriers tend to be pretty cooperative in handing over reports); or if the high-touch IMEI gathering is more or less entirely about informing non-nerds that they are indeed being watched.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @rudolfsciemins @randahl

                                    i have 100s of comments hating on the govt of russia, putin, the kremlin

                                    but i'm careful not to demonize regular russians, because yes, while many of them are loser assholes who support the stupid ethnofascist war on ukraine, many are not

                                    and thus, not as some high minded moral principle, but simply as a matter of good tactics and strategy, we don't demonize all russians, simply because if putin is to be overthrown, it will be regular russians doing it

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                                    @benroyce @rudolfsciemins @randahl First, deal with your dictator, who wants to destroy the whole world, and then give advice to everyone else.

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                                    • inpc@go.mxtthxw.artI inpc@go.mxtthxw.art

                                      @randahl wouldn't they already be able to access this info?Assuming people mostly get phones on a contract and not buying phones with cash.

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                                      @inpc @randahl Even if you buy with cash you (in most cases) end up 'using' the phone like a normal person; which builds out a combination of location data and contact activity.

                                      Especially with a massive sino-russian border I don't doubt that someone who really cared could make two 'clean' phones and some anonymous IoT SIMs fall off the back of a truck, one to stay with the bomb and one to detonate it with; but users like that aren't getting their phones checked by random street cops.

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                                      • kvilkidi@mastodon.socialK kvilkidi@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce @rudolfsciemins @randahl First, deal with your dictator, who wants to destroy the whole world, and then give advice to everyone else.

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                                        @kvilkidi @rudolfsciemins @randahl

                                        oh hey timur, thanks for that gatekeeping

                                        so i'll talk about whatever the fuck i want to talk about

                                        i'll use this comment here for example to tell gatekeeping shitbags to shut the fuck up and trip on their front steps and wind up the hospital

                                        💋

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                          During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                          This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                                          #34

                                          @randahl coming to an everywhere near you

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