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Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

    During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

    This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

    masek@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @randahl I understand why they do it. But they're on the losing end anyway.

    They can either disable the mobile network or otherwise the Ukraine will find a way to control their drones.

    The corruption in Russia becomes a huge advantage for it's opponents. If you have the money, there will always be a way.

    From what I hear, they tend towards rolling back mobile internet. So that country will become even more of a hellhole.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

      During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

      This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

      scottytrees@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @randahl Can't say I feel bad for them with what they have been doing to Ukraine for years now.

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      • random_sapiens@mastodon-belgium.beR random_sapiens@mastodon-belgium.be

        @randahl I had to watch the video to know whether this was about Russia or the United States..

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        @random_sapiens The US already has all that information along with a decades old mass surveillance programme. They'd only do this for the theatrics.

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        • H halaana@mastodon.social

          @random_sapiens The US already has all that information along with a decades old mass surveillance programme. They'd only do this for the theatrics.

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          #13

          @Halaana well it's a lot about theatrics lately...

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

            During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

            This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

            inpc@go.mxtthxw.artI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @randahl wouldn't they already be able to access this info?Assuming people mostly get phones on a contract and not buying phones with cash.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

              During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

              This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

              robo105@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @randahl Putin is frightened and is hunkering down

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                rudolfsciemins@toot.lvR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @randahl, who cares what happens to orcs?

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                • rudolfsciemins@toot.lvR rudolfsciemins@toot.lv

                  @randahl, who cares what happens to orcs?

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                  #17

                  @rudolfsciemins @randahl

                  i have 100s of comments hating on the govt of russia, putin, the kremlin

                  but i'm careful not to demonize regular russians, because yes, while many of them are loser assholes who support the stupid ethnofascist war on ukraine, many are not

                  and thus, not as some high minded moral principle, but simply as a matter of good tactics and strategy, we don't demonize all russians, simply because if putin is to be overthrown, it will be regular russians doing it

                  kvilkidi@mastodon.socialK rudolfsciemins@toot.lvR 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                    During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                    This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                    #18

                    @randahl

                    Seems incongruous to decry police-state behavior in a police-state with your face visible. Video looks real but, I wonder.

                    I can definitely see something like this coming to the USA.

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                    • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                      @randahl
                      We don't need to do this, because unless you are using a prepaid SIM - and never had a subscription SIM in the same phone, Danish and European authorities already have that information.

                      Did you notice how getting a prepaid SIM became a lot harder a few years ago? I used to have a prepaid SIM that I paid 99,- for per year, and now I'm paying 79,- per month for pretty much the same use, simply because prepaid became too cumbersome.

                      Russia presumably have a lot more people using prepaid SIMs, so they can't get the information via the phone company.

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                      #19

                      @leeloo @randahl 79 Eur per month seems insanely expensive.

                      Edit: My bad, i'm guessing it's DKK not Eur

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                        During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                        This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                        eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @randahl Has been for over a hundred years. Putin just managed to make it even worse.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                          During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                          This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                          mikelovesbikes@hear-me.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          mikelovesbikes@hear-me.social
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                          #21

                          @randahl Are you sure the IMEI can tell them what the phone is doing on the internet? I've never heard that before, and I just looked it up and it doesn't seem to be true. All it can tell them is the phone's location.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                            During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                            This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                            grootinside@troet.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @randahl
                            It's only a different way than in other countries. It happens everywhere.
                            So nothing new or surprising.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                              During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                              This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                              epistomai@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #23

                              @randahl the f**k is that? I meant the police or whatever doing that, not the number.

                              In 🇺🇸 the IT companies inform the government, for a fee.

                              The whole world is 1984. Idk which country/government is absolutely free for being monitored. 🇩🇪? 🇫🇷?

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

                                hakudzero@social.vivaldi.netH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @randahl Серьёзно? Наверное я живу в параллельной вселенной, где ничего подобного не происходит. Но зато в моей вселенной в мирных русских городах гибнут мирные люди от оружия, которое поставляет НАТО террористам. И эта кровь вопиет к небу.

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                                • epistomai@mastodon.socialE epistomai@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl the f**k is that? I meant the police or whatever doing that, not the number.

                                  In 🇺🇸 the IT companies inform the government, for a fee.

                                  The whole world is 1984. Idk which country/government is absolutely free for being monitored. 🇩🇪? 🇫🇷?

                                  randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @epistomai Not Denmark, I know that much. We have cameras in the cities and it is illegal to cover your face. Dystopian.

                                  barkeep@mastodon.socialB grootinside@troet.cafeG 2 Replies Last reply
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                                  • cosmiccactus@mastodon.socialC cosmiccactus@mastodon.social

                                    @leeloo @randahl 79 Eur per month seems insanely expensive.

                                    Edit: My bad, i'm guessing it's DKK not Eur

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                                    @CosmicCactus
                                    About 10 EUR.

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                                      @Ex_spurt @randahl Yeah, this. Though it's interesting to see it happening in meat space, instead of virtually through telco sharing.

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                                      • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                                        @randahl
                                        We don't need to do this, because unless you are using a prepaid SIM - and never had a subscription SIM in the same phone, Danish and European authorities already have that information.

                                        Did you notice how getting a prepaid SIM became a lot harder a few years ago? I used to have a prepaid SIM that I paid 99,- for per year, and now I'm paying 79,- per month for pretty much the same use, simply because prepaid became too cumbersome.

                                        Russia presumably have a lot more people using prepaid SIMs, so they can't get the information via the phone company.

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                                        @leeloo
                                        It's impossible to get anonymous SIMs in the EU. And I doubt that it's possible in Russia.
                                        @randahl

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                          During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                          This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                                          @randahl There are 1,808,100 prisoners in prisons in the USA and 433,006 in Russia. Thank you for reminding me what demagoguery is.

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