Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs
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If the price drops enough I would get one. I would hate to give money to musk, but it is not a bad car (based on the 2 people I know who have owned them for years).
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I would rather walk than buy a tesla
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
Used Teslas cost chump change in my country, especially older Model S which is the more luxurious model. Morally, I could justify buying a used one. I still hate the things though. And while I don't care too much about my image, a nazi sympathiser is not something I want to look like.
I'm considering a Jaguar I-Pace or MB EQC instead. But if I can get a REALLY good deal on a used Tesla, I might consider pulling the trigger just because 2 euros per liter of diesel makes me spend twice what my payment on the Tesla would be and I could charge it at home.
Though I do love my current torsen-based Quattro so I'd ideally want an AWD car meaning the ones that fit the bill are about as much as the I-Pace. Which begs the question of which one is actually nicer to drive. Guess I'll have to test drive them both.
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I like the Ionic.
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Which Japanese EV? I'm not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
toyota has a couple (but I’m not sure if they are available in the US)
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How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful "just keep making shit perpetually" model?
They are cashing in production tax incentives and cooking the books. GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.
Elon was hoping everyone would just forget his antics.
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Does anyone have a good basic tip on how to buy one at a discount?
Buy used, they devalue like rocks
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Buy used, they devalue like rocks
What about the idea of the battery degrading or getting worn out or whatever? I've never owned one and I have sort of zero concept of that. I think they're warranty covers through 150k or something like that?
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Buy used, they devalue like rocks
I wouldn't call them super cheap though they depreciate a lot from the new prices. Lots of quality ICE cars of similar age at lower prices, i.e. they are still expensive cars.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers. The company is bankrupt but there's a lively community of owners and getting stuff like repair parts isn't hard. I'm slightly tempted but only slightly. What I really want is an EV conversion for an old cargo van, so it would have very few computers inside.
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This is my stupid fucking friend who can’t get off Elons nuts at all. It’s fucking sad. He literally bought a model Y the other day despite me telling him Rivian is about to release a competitor because he thinks he can add it to the robo taxi fleet in a year or two. God I love him and am sick of this shit.
I have one of those
friendsacquittances. Glow in his eyes when he talks about Elons great deeds. He also just bought a Y-model, because Elon was treated unfairly, even though he's in large debt due to a grand business opportunity that went south. -
You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla
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Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla
or Norwegian, First and third biggest selling car there
or Australian
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I'd rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
i have a BYD here in Australia.
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Which Japanese EV? I'm not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
Toyota sells a couple EV models in China for the China market not sure where thier overseas models are made....Toyota has the second biggest selling EV in Norway for example and have that model here in Australia, its actually ok, the previous version was comparatively shitty
Toyota bZ4X | All-Electric SUV | Toyota Australia
With improved driving range, charging and an enhanced suite of technology, the 2025 Toyota bZ4X is an all-electric SUV designed to spark more possibilities.
New Cars Toyota Australia: Prices, Service Centres, Dealers, Test Drives (www.toyota.com.au)
Subaru have 2 models, a JV with Toyota.
Subaru Uncharted and Trailseeker EVs looking good for Australia: “Watch this space for some exciting announcements” promises local Subaru boss - EV Central
Subaru is expected to soon confirm the Trailseeker and Uncharted electric SUVs will join its Australian line-up. And they could arrive locally as soon as 2026 alongside a facelift of the brand’s debut electric model, the Solterra, tripling Subaru’s local EV line-up.
EV Central (evcentral.com.au)
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Or an Indian. They fucking love Tesla
I'm in the GTA. Asians here. They fucking love Tesla's.
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From what Elon says to shareholders, Tesla is going to pivot to becoming a humanoid robot production company anyway, the cars are just a sideline. They axed two models when they announced that.
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VERY popular in Germany
that salute you mean ?
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Toyota sells a couple EV models in China for the China market not sure where thier overseas models are made....Toyota has the second biggest selling EV in Norway for example and have that model here in Australia, its actually ok, the previous version was comparatively shitty
Toyota bZ4X | All-Electric SUV | Toyota Australia
With improved driving range, charging and an enhanced suite of technology, the 2025 Toyota bZ4X is an all-electric SUV designed to spark more possibilities.
New Cars Toyota Australia: Prices, Service Centres, Dealers, Test Drives (www.toyota.com.au)
Subaru have 2 models, a JV with Toyota.
Subaru Uncharted and Trailseeker EVs looking good for Australia: “Watch this space for some exciting announcements” promises local Subaru boss - EV Central
Subaru is expected to soon confirm the Trailseeker and Uncharted electric SUVs will join its Australian line-up. And they could arrive locally as soon as 2026 alongside a facelift of the brand’s debut electric model, the Solterra, tripling Subaru’s local EV line-up.
EV Central (evcentral.com.au)
The bz4x/bz/Solterra is still the worst EV on the road, bar none.
Worst range of all EVs, flip phone quality software center stack, and the same price as a model y. It’s nuts that anyone would buy those pieces of shit.
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that salute you mean ?
Yes, although I was obviously being a bit sarcastic - but not really since there's so many neo-nazis over here...
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This is my stupid fucking friend who can’t get off Elons nuts at all. It’s fucking sad. He literally bought a model Y the other day despite me telling him Rivian is about to release a competitor because he thinks he can add it to the robo taxi fleet in a year or two. God I love him and am sick of this shit.
To be fair, I’m waiting on the R2 as well, but I’m strapping in for first generation fit and finish issues galore. Rivian hasn’t surpassed Tesla in software or aftermarket flexibility.
Not to mention, we probably won’t be able to take delivery until late this year despite paying for a reservation from this past March.
