Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs
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Elon couldn't pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It's not about the technology. It's entirely about Elon. I'd rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
depends on the definition of paying. is he giving you discount, or is he paying more than the car's worth?
if it is the latter, then i am fine keeping all the fucker's money and set the free teslas on fire.
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
there are people in the world who buy new car because their 2 year old one is already too old.
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Does anyone have a good basic tip on how to buy one at a discount?
Theft. Dealerships hate this one weird trick!
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They’ve been discontinued is the important part, anything decent gets discontinued.
It seems Toyota is about the only car company building anything interesting. Akio Toyoda is this generations Bob Lutz or Ferdinand Piëch
Toyota is betting on hydrogen instead of electric for some stupid fucking reason.
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Toyota is betting on hydrogen instead of electric for some stupid fucking reason.
Electric works fine in industrialized suburban blahsville but it doesn’t work well outside of it. Toyota dominates in the non industrial nations so it needs to remain flexible, I wish more auto companies would do blue sky type research
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
You couldn't pay me to drive one.
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I like the Ionic.
Best case under $50k for sure
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At this point i no longer care if they lower the price until they're free. They will have to sell them as scrap at a loss. I will never, ever, ever buy a Tesla.
I will drive a free tesla
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How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful "just keep making shit perpetually" model?

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Elon couldn't pay me to buy a Tesla. I like EVs. It's not about the technology. It's entirely about Elon. I'd rather buy Japanese or South Korean, thank you.
I'd rather buy a Chinese one, but mr Biden made that impossible.
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You got to be a special kind of asshole if you’re buying a Tesla these days.
Their Q1 sales were actually up over last year. It's insane.
The same kind of pieces of shit that still use Twitter.
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If the price drops enough I would get one. I would hate to give money to musk, but it is not a bad car (based on the 2 people I know who have owned them for years).
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I would rather walk than buy a tesla
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Anecdote:
I was recently browsing an auto listing app for a used EV as I'm thinking about switching to an EV from my ICE hatchback, and the market near me is absolutely flooded with Teslas, primary model 3s. And it's not just "old" ones either. Tons of 2020-2024 models as well.
Used Teslas cost chump change in my country, especially older Model S which is the more luxurious model. Morally, I could justify buying a used one. I still hate the things though. And while I don't care too much about my image, a nazi sympathiser is not something I want to look like.
I'm considering a Jaguar I-Pace or MB EQC instead. But if I can get a REALLY good deal on a used Tesla, I might consider pulling the trigger just because 2 euros per liter of diesel makes me spend twice what my payment on the Tesla would be and I could charge it at home.
Though I do love my current torsen-based Quattro so I'd ideally want an AWD car meaning the ones that fit the bill are about as much as the I-Pace. Which begs the question of which one is actually nicer to drive. Guess I'll have to test drive them both.
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I like the Ionic.
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Which Japanese EV? I'm not aware of any good ones.
Korean ones? Best on the market. If you want the best for a reasonable price, Hyundai or Kia.
toyota has a couple (but I’m not sure if they are available in the US)
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How did that happen? When I worked at the Fremont plant, we were only putting together vehicles that had already been sold. Did they swap from lean manufacturing to the normal, wasteful "just keep making shit perpetually" model?

They are cashing in production tax incentives and cooking the books. GM did the same thing 2008 before it all collapsed.
Elon was hoping everyone would just forget his antics.
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Does anyone have a good basic tip on how to buy one at a discount?
Buy used, they devalue like rocks
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Buy used, they devalue like rocks
What about the idea of the battery degrading or getting worn out or whatever? I've never owned one and I have sort of zero concept of that. I think they're warranty covers through 150k or something like that?
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Buy used, they devalue like rocks
I wouldn't call them super cheap though they depreciate a lot from the new prices. Lots of quality ICE cars of similar age at lower prices, i.e. they are still expensive cars.
You can get fantastically good deals on used Fiskers. The company is bankrupt but there's a lively community of owners and getting stuff like repair parts isn't hard. I'm slightly tempted but only slightly. What I really want is an EV conversion for an old cargo van, so it would have very few computers inside.